ragnar
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Post by ragnar on Nov 7, 2020 21:42:22 GMT
Hello everyone I have an issue.
I am not good with girls. I suck.
I'm considered well above average in d looks department.
I am a funny guy, I make gals laugh. But when it comes 2 seducing aspect, I cannot seduce a girl to save my life.
I hear guys saying, " once a gal decides to visit them, that is it." But my case is different. I have had girls over at my place for 2,3 hours. And I could not escalate into sex.
Now to the issue at hand
I have a neighbour I have been trying to fuck. She is cute, I like her. I don't mind having a relationship with her. A friend introduced me to her. She is always coming around my house.
I have asked her out twice, she turned me down. I have kissed her at her place in the past.
There was a time we were alone in my house, I tried to escalate, but she stood up and left.
I told her to stop calling and visiting me. But she wouldn't stop calling or visiting (she knows my roommate,so she comes around to also check on him).
I really want to fuck her.
I really suck and don't know what to do. What is my best line of action?
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Nov 7, 2020 22:07:35 GMT
Maybe it's because she's fucking your roommate instead. Are you sure that she isn't coming over there to fuck him, and just seeing you out of convenience? You both are conveniently living in the same place (you and your roommate), and you said that she comes there to check up on him too..so she may feel like, she can get two guys for the price of one. It may sound fucked up that i came up with this scenario..but it wouldn't surprise me one bit, if that's what she's doing. It's typical female thotery.
-G
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Post by ragnar on Nov 8, 2020 7:09:30 GMT
Maybe it's because she's fucking your roommate instead. Are you sure that she isn't coming over there to fuck him, and just seeing you out of convenience? You both are conveniently living in the same place (you and your roommate), and you said that she comes there to check up on him too..so she may feel like, she can get two guys for the price of one. It may sound fucked up that i came up with this scenario..but it wouldn't surprise me one bit, if that's what she's doing. It's typical female thotery. -G Thanks for the reply. She have alot of male friends. She said she prefers having male friends because they are more logical and she doesn't want all the drama with girls. I am 99% sure he has not had anything sexual to do with her. He has been pushing me to fuck her.
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Post by pilgrimmeister on Nov 8, 2020 11:45:39 GMT
Maybe it's because she's fucking your roommate instead. Are you sure that she isn't coming over there to fuck him, and just seeing you out of convenience? You both are conveniently living in the same place (you and your roommate), and you said that she comes there to check up on him too..so she may feel like, she can get two guys for the price of one. It may sound fucked up that i came up with this scenario..but it wouldn't surprise me one bit, if that's what she's doing. It's typical female thotery. -G Thanks for the reply. She have alot of male friends. She said she prefers having male friends because they are more logical and she doesn't want all the drama with girls. I am 99% sure he has not had anything sexual to do with her. He has been pushing me to fuck her. Then she has you firmly in the friendzone and that isn't going to change anytime soon.
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Nov 8, 2020 15:30:13 GMT
She have alot of male friends. Anyone who has experience observing female behavior and tendencies..knows what that means. -G
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Nov 8, 2020 16:37:00 GMT
The Problem - She's wasting your time OP. She keeps coming over, but she won't ever put out.
The Solution - So put her on the side then (put her on the back burner, instead of her putting you on the back burner). And go find you another girl that will put out. That girl that will put out..put her on the front burner. And if you're familiar with "pre-selection"..the girl on the back burner, will realize that you are fucking another girl (You don't even have to tell her that you are, she'll already have a feeling that you are. Your indifferent behavior and attitude towards her, will tell her this..trust me on this one). And once she realizes that..girl on the back burner, may want to give it up to you now, all of a sudden. And Do Not Get Emotionally Attached, To Either One Of These Girls (do not get emotionally attached to either front burner girl, or back burner girl). A girl can and will leave you, whenever she feels like it (girls love to suddenly pull out the rug from underneath a guy's feet..especially if she thinks that she has him now)..which is why you don't ever want to get emotionally attached to them. So that if anyone of them ghosts on you, at any point in time..you won't even care. You'll just go find you another girl, no problem. And if you do everything that i said here..you'll be just fine.
-G
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Post by JackZero on Nov 8, 2020 17:16:45 GMT
... I hear guys saying, " once a gal decides to visit them, that is it." But my case is different. I have had girls over at my place for 2,3 hours. And I could not escalate into sex.... OP, this is the statement that stands out to me. My gut is telling me that your problem is somewhere around here. Maybe you can give some detail on what you are doing in that 2-3 hours and what led up to them coming to visit. I'm assuming that you just don't go after the girls that your roommate brings around.
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Post by ragnar on Nov 8, 2020 17:44:19 GMT
Thanks for the advice.
I believe I have been friendzoned.
It sucks.
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Post by ragnar on Nov 8, 2020 18:13:21 GMT
... I hear guys saying, " once a gal decides to visit them, that is it." But my case is different. I have had girls over at my place for 2,3 hours. And I could not escalate into sex.... OP, this is the statement that stands out to me. My gut is telling me that your problem is somewhere around here. Maybe you can give some detail on what you are doing in that 2-3 hours and what led up to them coming to visit. I'm assuming that you just don't go after the girls that your roommate brings around. I have never really been able to get girls to have sex with me. Most of the girls I have been with initiated sex. I am very social and funny, so getting numbers have never really been an issue. But inviting them over and sealing the deal is a major problem. I invite a girl over. I try been social for like 20-30 minute to make them comfortable. I starts closing the distance between us and start caressing. Aftering getting stopped twice, I give up.
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Nov 8, 2020 18:18:15 GMT
No worries, i equipped you with what you need to do now. JackZero just now chimed in, on your escalation-to-sex issues with girls. I can tell you for a fact, that girls don't like to be friend zoned either lol. They hate it when they get friend zoned by a guy, but girls expect us (guys) to be okay with them friend zoning us. A girl that i friend zoned this year..invited me over to her place and cooked for me. I had a really good time with her actually..i just wasn't physically attracted to her. So i didn't make any sexual moves on her..we just hungout and talked. Before that day..this same girl, was texting me almost daily. Let me tell you what happen after that day, that i spent with her..radio silence Lol! She didn't text me once, after that day. So what does that tell you? It tells you that, not even girls like being friend zoned NOONE DOES! -G
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Post by JackZero on Nov 8, 2020 18:28:31 GMT
... I am very social and funny, so getting numbers have never really been an issue. But inviting them over and sealing the deal is a major problem.... When you invite them over, what's the reason that you give them for the invite? If you're wondering where I'm going with this, it's because of your statement of you being very social and funny. If that's the foundation your building from, I'm wondering if you are expressing your feelings of attraction towards them? If you are being friendly, your invite sounds friendly, then chances are she's expecting a friendly visit.
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Post by ragnar on Nov 8, 2020 18:49:50 GMT
... I am very social and funny, so getting numbers have never really been an issue. But inviting them over and sealing the deal is a major problem.... When you invite them over, what's the reason that you give them for the invite? If you're wondering where I'm going with this, it's because of your statement of you being very social and funny. If that's the foundation your building from, I'm wondering if you are expressing your feelings of attraction towards them? If you are being friendly, your invite sounds friendly, then chances are she's expecting a friendly visit. Yes, I have been guilty of not expressing my feelings of attraction towards girls. But this current girl I am seeing, I have expressed my feelings towards her. I told her I like her and expressed my desire to have her in my life. She turned me down. I cut all contact with her. After 2 months she got in contact with me and old feelings were stirred up. I iterated my feelings towards her and got rejected. I stopped her from calling or coming to visit me. And now she just comes unannounced to see my roommate. They get along really well and it is getting to me.
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Post by JackZero on Nov 9, 2020 5:16:12 GMT
When you invite them over, what's the reason that you give them for the invite? If you're wondering where I'm going with this, it's because of your statement of you being very social and funny. If that's the foundation your building from, I'm wondering if you are expressing your feelings of attraction towards them? If you are being friendly, your invite sounds friendly, then chances are she's expecting a friendly visit. Yes, I have been guilty of not expressing my feelings of attraction towards girls. But this current girl I am seeing, I have expressed my feelings towards her. I told her I like her and expressed my desire to have her in my life. She turned me down. I cut all contact with her. After 2 months she got in contact with me and old feelings were stirred up. I iterated my feelings towards her and got rejected. I stopped her from calling or coming to visit me. And now she just comes unannounced to see my roommate. They get along really well and it is getting to me. It's not this girl that I'm particularly worried about. I like to address how guys approach women in general and that's when you realize if you are or aren't doing anything wrong. If you tell me that you suck with women and your sticking point is when they come over you cannot escalate to sex, there is something wrong with how you are getting them there or what you do when they get there. This same sticking point may be what exists what is happening with you and the girl that you are using in your example. I'm just trying to help you narrow it down. The thing with this girl is that you may be talking too much on how you feel about her. Expressing your feelings in words isn't usually the best way to go unless worded correctly. Here is your clue that G pointed out. She doesn't like having female friends. These girls generally love having guy friends that fall all over them and once they know they have you they like to friendzone you. This is where you went wrong with her. The best strategy for you would have been to give her enough attention to make her curious about the possibility of you being interested. She would have likely chased you until you were willing to give her the attention that she wanted. Your job would be to give her enough attention to think she thinks she almost has you and you pull back a bit so she would chase after the attention again. (I don't like dealing with women like this because they tend to be more work than they are worth)
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Post by ragnar on Nov 10, 2020 0:43:12 GMT
Thanks G.
No one likes being friendzoned. I'm planning on getting an escort.
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Post by ragnar on Nov 10, 2020 1:05:39 GMT
Yes, I have been guilty of not expressing my feelings of attraction towards girls. But this current girl I am seeing, I have expressed my feelings towards her. I told her I like her and expressed my desire to have her in my life. She turned me down. I cut all contact with her. After 2 months she got in contact with me and old feelings were stirred up. I iterated my feelings towards her and got rejected. I stopped her from calling or coming to visit me. And now she just comes unannounced to see my roommate. They get along really well and it is getting to me. It's not this girl that I'm particularly worried about. I like to address how guys approach women in general and that's when you realize if you are or aren't doing anything wrong. If you tell me that you suck with women and your sticking point is when they come over you cannot escalate to sex, there is something wrong with how you are getting them there or what you do when they get there. This same sticking point may be what exists what is happening with you and the girl that you are using in your example. I'm just trying to help you narrow it down. The thing with this girl is that you may be talking too much on how you feel about her. Expressing your feelings in words isn't usually the best way to go unless worded correctly. Yes, you are right. My major sticking point is escalating to sex. I lost most of the girls during this phase. Yes, I expressed my feelings in word because I felt we were on the same page, emotionally. I really believed she liked me. G was right. She have alot of male friends. She still comes to my apartment everyday, but this time around she comes to see my roommate. She wasn't worth the chase.
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