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Post by Heywood Jablowme on Dec 4, 2018 18:37:16 GMT
If it were me, that would be it for her unless she reached out to me. No one is busy enough with work to say hello to someone that they are interested in. She's been back and she didn't even say a word to you until you said something to her. What does that tell you? I get what you are saying. But what I don't understand is why she suddenly lost interest. After the date when we had sex she even texted me first. With some other girls in the past it was always clear why the girls didn't want me (anymore), and I learned from it. I put these lessons in the approach of this girl and all went well. And now it happens again with no apparent reason. For me it's not about this specific girl but more about understanding it I think. Ive implemented some basic principles and being emotionally centered, and it still gives me shit Just because she fucked you, you don't have to expect she's very invested at 3 dates in. You've got to try to remember that any hot woman you're talking to probably has, at the very least, 10x as many options as you do. So all it takes if for one of those other guys to be 1% taller, 1% more wealthy, 1% more of whatever she's looking for, really. and BLAM she's fucking someone else. No matter how slick you think you are, the option numbers are simply in women's favor by a landslide.
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Post by chef89 on Dec 4, 2018 18:39:20 GMT
I get what you are saying. But what I don't understand is why she suddenly lost interest. After the date when we had sex she even texted me first. With some other girls in the past it was always clear why the girls didn't want me (anymore), and I learned from it. I put these lessons in the approach of this girl and all went well. And now it happens again with no apparent reason. For me it's not about this specific girl but more about understanding it I think. Ive implemented some basic principles and being emotionally centered, and it still gives me shit Just because she fucked you, you don't have to expect she's very invested at 3 dates in. You've got to try to remember that any hot woman you're talking to probably has, at the very least, 10x as many options as you do. So all it takes if for one of those other guys to be 1% taller, 1% more wealthy, 1% more of whatever she's looking for, really. and BLAM she's fucking someone else. No matter how slick you think you are, the option numbers are simply in women's favor by a landslide. I get it, but she went on a holiday far away after that date. If she met a guy it probably wasn't anyone to date back in my country
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Post by N2thevoid on Dec 4, 2018 18:43:05 GMT
Define "very invested"
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Post by Heywood Jablowme on Dec 4, 2018 18:49:05 GMT
Just because she's scratching the horny itch, it doesn't mean she wants to pick out towels together.
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Post by N2thevoid on Dec 4, 2018 18:51:43 GMT
Just because she's scratching the horny itch, it doesn't mean she wants to pick out towels together. True, but we also don't have much information and its likely very skewed, what little we do have. Maybe she didn't see him as a LTR at some point. 3 dates is a lot of fuss to get laid but then again maybe she doesn't want an LTR just some excitement, and then moves onto the next best thing. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what she wants. OP recognize a time waster and move on. Not every story was meant to be. You can waste time analyzing the entire thing or go create the next opportunity that could be right around the corner. You spread yourself thin and waited for her to make a decision on you when you should have recognized your investment and opened yourself to opportunities with other women.
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Post by chef89 on Dec 4, 2018 19:08:52 GMT
Just because she's scratching the horny itch, it doesn't mean she wants to pick out towels together. True, but we also don't have much information and its likely very skewed, what little we do have. Maybe she didn't see him as a LTR at some point. 3 dates is a lot of fuss to get laid but then again maybe she doesn't want an LTR just some excitement, and then moves onto the next best thing. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what she wants. OP recognize a time waster and move on. Not every story was meant to be. You can waste time analyzing the entire thing or go create the next opportunity that could be right around the corner. You spread yourself thin and waited for her to make a decision on you when you should have recognized your investment and opened yourself to opportunities with other women. I do have other dates that not so much of a problem. The problem is they never stay in my life. There is always something else. I fix problem X, then with the next girl problem Y appears and she leaves. This is another example of that. It never ends while at some of my friends it seems like all of them stick around. It makes me think I'm doing something fundamentally wrong, although dates were fun
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Post by N2thevoid on Dec 4, 2018 19:12:09 GMT
Whats your energy around these women?
By that I mean if you check in with yourself, are you feeling anxious a lot of the time? Are you feeling you have to do x y z? What's going on for you when you're around them, and also in between dates?
To me this sounds like an inner game issue more than anything.
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Post by chef89 on Dec 4, 2018 19:14:16 GMT
Whats your energy around these women? By that I mean if you check in with yourself, are you feeling anxious a lot of the time? Are you feeling you have to do x y z? What's going on for your when you're around them, and also in between dates? I'm usually chill and down to earth. I'm focusing on having fun. I take them out to activities and also try to get to know her. I'm not feeling anxious tbh. If I was, I don't think I got to take her home.
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Post by Heywood Jablowme on Dec 4, 2018 19:16:41 GMT
I get it, but she went on a holiday far away after that date. If she met a guy it probably wasn't anyone to date back in my country No you're wearing blinders. This isn't pointing at a specific 'guy'. This is pointing out the skewed option levels. Okay lets flip this. Imaging you are so fucking awesome you have 20 Jennifer Aniston's available and naked on demand. Angelina Jolie comes along take you out for a free meal 3 times, and you're like meh sure I'll hit it.
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Dec 4, 2018 19:33:56 GMT
I get it, but she went on a holiday far away after that date. If she met a guy it probably wasn't anyone to date back in my country No you're wearing blinders. This isn't pointing at a specific 'guy'. This is pointing out the skewed option levels. Okay lets flip this. Imaging you are so fucking awesome you have 20 Jennifer Aniston's available and naked on demand. Angelina Jolie comes along take you out for a free meal 3 times, and you're like meh sure I'll hit it. LOL I like how you explained to him, the abundance that a woman has in this way. Classic Heywood. -G
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Post by JackZero on Dec 4, 2018 19:35:31 GMT
Whats your energy around these women? By that I mean if you check in with yourself, are you feeling anxious a lot of the time? Are you feeling you have to do x y z? What's going on for your when you're around them, and also in between dates? I'm usually chill and down to earth. I'm focusing on having fun. I take them out to activities and also try to get to know her. I'm not feeling anxious tbh. If I was, I don't think I got to take her home. My question would be is what is your energy AFTER you have sex with these women? I question this because of your texting he while she was on vacation. Do you change how you present yourself to these women? Do you go from being chill and down to earth to wanting more of their time than you were getting from them originally?
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Post by chef89 on Dec 4, 2018 19:44:05 GMT
I'm usually chill and down to earth. I'm focusing on having fun. I take them out to activities and also try to get to know her. I'm not feeling anxious tbh. If I was, I don't think I got to take her home. My question would be is what is your energy AFTER you have sex with these women? I question this because of your texting he while she was on vacation. Do you change how you present yourself to these women? Do you go from being chill and down to earth to wanting more of their time than you were getting from them originally? I would say no. She texted me after that date. We texted back and forth and I told her to have fun on vacation. After about a week I asked her if she was having fun and she sent me some pics and asked how I was doing. I responded with some stuff and asked where the pics were taken. No response. Now, two weeks later I sent her a small message if she got back. And now the response posted earlier. I can imagine she was off the radar on vacation but not while back home. Point is I was taking things lightly over text and certainly not overtexting I guess. The only thing I can imagine is that I told her to send me some holiday pics and after a week I was asking if she was having fun. But this didn't came from some kind of anxious energy, just curious if she was having fun. She told me she was looking forward to it.
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Post by JackZero on Dec 4, 2018 19:51:45 GMT
My question would be is what is your energy AFTER you have sex with these women? I question this because of your texting he while she was on vacation. Do you change how you present yourself to these women? Do you go from being chill and down to earth to wanting more of their time than you were getting from them originally? I would say no. She texted me after that date. We texted back and forth and I told her to have fun on vacation. After about a week I asked her if she was having fun and she sent me some pics and asked how I was doing. I responded with some stuff and asked where the pics were taken. No response. Now, two weeks later I sent her a small message if she got back. And now the response posted earlier. I can imagine she was off the radar on vacation but not while back home. Point is I was taking things lightly over text and certainly not overtexting I guess. The only thing I can imagine is that I told her to send me some holiday pics and after a week I was asking if she was having fun. But this didn't came from some kind of anxious energy, just curious if she was having fun. She told me she was looking forward to it. I'm saying that if you are losing girls after having sex with them, the problem is either your presentation of who you are has changed or you have thorns on your penis. I'm 70% sure that there are no thorns.
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Post by N2thevoid on Dec 4, 2018 19:56:22 GMT
Do you have a thorny penis?
Are you the disco dancer that meets chicks on the dance floor?
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Post by chef89 on Dec 4, 2018 20:04:42 GMT
I would say no. She texted me after that date. We texted back and forth and I told her to have fun on vacation. After about a week I asked her if she was having fun and she sent me some pics and asked how I was doing. I responded with some stuff and asked where the pics were taken. No response. Now, two weeks later I sent her a small message if she got back. And now the response posted earlier. I can imagine she was off the radar on vacation but not while back home. Point is I was taking things lightly over text and certainly not overtexting I guess. The only thing I can imagine is that I told her to send me some holiday pics and after a week I was asking if she was having fun. But this didn't came from some kind of anxious energy, just curious if she was having fun. She told me she was looking forward to it. I'm saying that if you are losing girls after having sex with them, the problem is either your presentation of who you are has changed or you have thorns on your penis. I'm 70% sure that there are no thorns. Haha I checked for the thorns but couldnt discover any But honestly I try to present the situation as objective as possible as I'm here to get some honest feedback. Maybe I should add that the text messages from her were a bit serious, mainly about some work topics and plans etc. She didnt really bait into some flirting from my side, altough I didnt think I overdid it with regard to multiple flirting attempts. But in RL she laughed about some of my jokes and the dates were fun like I said. I must say she was also eager to kiss me at the end of the 2nd and 3rd date.
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