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Post by saddog on Apr 19, 2018 4:17:59 GMT
Some people will say that "dont hit on girls who are paid to treat you well", and I was totally committed with this statement before I met my current instructor. Some more datails, I am going to compete late this year in a amateur dance championship, so I hired a "coach", all those dance instructors are hot, I dont choose her because she is hot as fuck. I tried to stay casual, but well, banter here, and there, and probably the "stay casual, dont hit on her, dont!" worked like put fuel in the fire, and I am trying a strategy to act or let it pass.
If I like a girl, I just say "hey lets do get some coffee/icecream/beer etc.. bla bla bla", but I already know her, I pay her a good sum of money, she is highly value. She respond well like fake punch, call me player, bla bla bla, but again money. I dont know how to proceed in this situation, because isnt my usual interaction, thoughts about how to proceed?
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Post by R.C on Apr 19, 2018 7:07:47 GMT
I'm not sure dance instructors count. People who are paid to treat you well include bargirls, hostesses, strippers, etc. If a dance instructor falls into that category, so does a lawyer, financial consultant, architect and basically every single job a woman can fill that is meant to provide a product or service.
If you wanna go for it, go for it. Even if she turns you down, it doesn't have to be awkward unless you make it awkward.
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Post by GenmLevel0 on Apr 19, 2018 18:11:06 GMT
Is she independent or does she work for some bigger company? I'm asking since there would be regulations against dating clients if she is with a company/studio so while indeed you'll be paying her to be nice, the odds would be against you.
But maybe it may be worth your time to still get her buying temp up a bit so she can introduce you, in due time, to her other hot students or instructor friends? or be a pivot during social events (re: your other post about latin clubs)?
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Post by saddog on Apr 20, 2018 13:39:09 GMT
I'm not sure dance instructors count. People who are paid to treat you well include bargirls, hostesses, strippers, etc. If a dance instructor falls into that category, so does a lawyer, financial consultant, architect and basically every single job a woman can fill that is meant to provide a product or service. If you wanna go for it, go for it. Even if she turns you down, it doesn't have to be awkward unless you make it awkward. I think it just the awkward part, I think in her mind, if she denies, it could be awkward, and I will stop to taking classes with her(which isnt the case, I just move on, and stop hitting on her, because keep trying after a solid no, is just pathetic). Most guys just tilt when got reject and as a hot woman, she probably got in this situations many times. |
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Post by saddog on Apr 20, 2018 13:48:13 GMT
Is she independent or does she work for some bigger company? I'm asking since there would be regulations against dating clients if she is with a company/studio so while indeed you'll be paying her to be nice, the odds would be against you. But maybe it may be worth your time to still get her buying temp up a bit so she can introduce you, in due time, to her other hot students or instructor friends? or be a pivot during social events (re: your other post about latin clubs)? I am her client, but the classes happen in a studio's where she works, most of the time in the same one, but sometime my schedule clash with her schedule and we move to other studios where she works(all the places is free for her personal clients). Indeed she is very active in local parties, I saw her several times dancing in the past. In the worst case scenario, I could do that haha |
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Post by Heywood Jablowme on Apr 20, 2018 14:03:04 GMT
If you flirt with every woman you encounter every single day, from the toddler in the stroller to the geriatric in the wheelchair. It becomes fluid and never awkward. I don't give a fuck if she's a hot dance instructor or a WWF beast, all women should be treated as women.
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Post by saddog on Apr 20, 2018 19:29:41 GMT
I flirt with her, and she flirt with me, but I find hard to transition to a date. First, because when I met someone I am interested, I just try set up a date I dont wait too long, second, I pay her a good amount of money every month, third the money factor is the problem, because I cannot read well and the time has passed(months), which means a can be perceived as the guy that always flirt and never close, a orbiter who pays her bills. I need help to transition from this state or a read that I just need to give up and move on.
Basically thats it...
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Post by Heywood Jablowme on Apr 20, 2018 20:32:57 GMT
I flirt with her, and she flirt with me, but I find hard to transition to a date. First, because when I met someone I am interested, I just try set up a date I dont wait too long, second, I pay her a good amount of money every month, third the money factor is the problem, because I cannot read well and the time has passed(months), which means a can be perceived as the guy that always flirt and never close, a orbiter who pays her bills. I need help to transition from this state or a read that I just need to give up and move on. Basically thats it... Here's your transition. "After this I'm going to grab a beer, I think you should join me." |
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Post by saddog on Apr 20, 2018 22:44:10 GMT
hahahaha, She doesnt drink, she always have other class/client next, and the studio area is more residential, nothing close.
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Post by JackZero on Apr 20, 2018 23:06:50 GMT
Ok, saddog...
In all honesty, it seems that you're full of excuses. In one thread, you talk about why you can't be social even though you explain that you have the skillset to be. This thread, you are now saying why this woman can't be asked out when you are given an example of what to do. You need to get over this ego protection or else you are going to be one of those guys that only gets women when she's giving you clear signals or she is direct with you.
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Apr 21, 2018 2:02:50 GMT
I'm sorry guys, but i couldn't help but to chime in on this one, after reading this sad thread. This is major AFC-ness saddog. Paying a woman..as the other guys in this thread have said "Paying Her To Be Nice To You", so you won't have to go out and approach other women, and possibly getting rejected by them..is MAJOR WEAK SAUCE! If anything..this behavior highlights to her your AFC scarcity mentality, and that you're so desperate that you're willing to go as far as to pay for a woman's attention, because you can't get it any other way. If i was her..i would be like "Eww", and i wouldn't want to date an obviously desperate guy like you. Why would she??..I'm just saying.
Why don't you just go out and start approaching other women? Oh, and here's a thought..have you ever considered cutting off the payments to her (especially if it's starting to take a toll on you financially, and she still isn't biting), and once she realized that you have, then she might start chasing you. Have you ever considered doing that? Just a thought.
This might seem like brutal feedback coming from me, and it is. But sometimes we need to get our ass kicked, so we can wake up and see how lame we are being, and how much of a fucking pussy that we are being, so we can start manning the fuck up.
-G
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Post by N2thevoid on Apr 21, 2018 4:48:12 GMT
“I I like you and I want to get to know you better come out to dinner with me.
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Post by GenmLevel0 on Apr 21, 2018 5:40:12 GMT
... Oh, and here's a thought..have you ever considered cutting off the payments to her (especially if it's starting to take a toll on you financially, and she still isn't biting), and once she realized that you have, then she might start chasing you. Have you ever considered doing that? Just a thought. but maybe he still wants dance lessons :# |
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Post by saddog on Apr 21, 2018 6:10:14 GMT
Ok, saddog... In all honesty, it seems that you're full of excuses. In one thread, you talk about why you can't be social even though you explain that you have the skillset to be. This thread, you are now saying why this woman can't be asked out when you are given an example of what to do. You need to get over this ego protection or else you are going to be one of those guys that only gets women when she's giving you clear signals or she is direct with you. I get it, I always come here with question/situations I will try in near future do some followup in my sucess too. I am a begginer, I come here to try learn from members experiences, and avoid learn from my mistakes, I know sometimes can be seen as whining, but I have problems to do things when it not fits in my "game". Like this one, generally after some minimum interaction I just say "lets go XYZ" she says yes or no, if yes go there do my best, if it is a no, move on. In this case, I know her several months, and I really like her work, is one of things that made attraction sparks, but it take too long, like the other member said, I am acting like onites. By the way, I will try "Day bang" approach and see if fit with my style. I also had some resistance with Roosh V, in fact I still have, but this material seems good. |
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Post by saddog on Apr 21, 2018 6:15:42 GMT
“I I like you and I want to get to know you better come out to dinner with me. simple, I like that, probably I will go to some yolo approach. But not now, I have somethings to learn with her first |
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