Two first approaches..

[maestro]

I'd like to go over my two first approaches and game scenarios, my first one was a girl by herself in the bar. I went up and asked if she was alone and we actually had a very pleasant conversation. Second, I was peacoked a bit and guy with his brother and 6 sister talked to me and introduced me to the two. In both of these scenarios I wonder how I could have made it further, I want to make it a thing to approach more and to approach more groups, as well as peacock often to allow approaches to happen to me.

[maestro]

Mar 31, 2024 18:30:26 GMT maestro said:

I'd like to go over my two first approaches and game scenarios, my first one was a girl by herself in the bar. I went up and asked if she was alone and we actually had a very pleasant conversation. Second, I was peacocked a bit and guy with his brother and 6 sister talked to me and introduced me to the two. In both of these scenarios I wonder how I could have made it further, I want to make it a thing to approach more and to approach more groups, as well as peacock often to allow approaches to happen to me.

[JackZero]

Mar 31, 2024 18:30:26 GMT maestro said:

I'd like to go over my two first approaches and game scenarios, my first one was a girl by herself in the bar. I went up and asked if she was alone and we actually had a very pleasant conversation. Second, I was peacoked a bit and guy with his brother and 6 sister talked to me and introduced me to the two. In both of these scenarios I wonder how I could have made it further, I want to make it a thing to approach more and to approach more groups, as well as peacock often to allow approaches to happen to me.

You are being vague with what happened, so it’s difficult to know what you could have done to get better.

[maestro]

On the first one, I talked to the girl and then the conversation slowed down so I excused myself. Later on I was in a group and she approached the group because she knew one of the guys, we greeted each other and all was good but it didn't go anywhere after that. In the second one the girl I met started showing me pictures of her ex and we talked and it went well but then I had to go and I ended up leaving. Both times the conversation either winded down or I ended up leaving early..

[JackZero]

Apr 1, 2024 4:20:58 GMT maestro said:

On the first one, I talked to the girl and then the conversation slowed down so I excused myself. Later on I was in a group and she approached the group because she knew one of the guys, we greeted each other and all was good but it didn't go anywhere after that. In the second one the girl I met started showing me pictures of her ex and we talked and it went well but then I had to go and I ended up leaving. Both times the conversation either winded down or I ended up leaving early..

Let's get specific.  What reason/reasons would she have found you a sexually attractive man during your interaction?

[maestro]

Just because I had the balls to approach and the second one because her brother introduced me and I kind of one them over a bit.

[JackZero]

Apr 1, 2024 7:26:46 GMT maestro said:

Just because I had the balls to approach and the second one because her brother introduced me and I kind of one them over a bit.

Lots of guys are bold enough to approach.  Women experience that pretty much on a daily basis and will shoot most of them down.  Winning "them" over can mean that they thought you were friendly.  Friendly is how orbiters are made.  I'm asking you why these women would find you sexually attractive after the interactions?  I'm asking this because if there is no answer that you can give, we know exactly where you need to improve and can come up with a real plan to improve your interactions.

I have a feeling that your approach is based on everything except for demonstrating attraction.  Most guys do this, so I understand.  Guys that are good with women are the guys that build foundations based on attraction.  It will hardly ever be built by hinting around without the benefit of a significant amount of face time with each other.  Night game and most cold approaches does not give you that type of time.  You have to make your move or things will fizzle out quickly.

[G-host]

I googled about attraction and found mysterys 5 attraction switches that you already have made a thread about so that one i will leave to be. What i later found is this

” Women are emotional creatures, so give them a wide range of intense emotional experiences, and they will fall for you. Emotional attraction is about making someone feel good. It can be set off by touch, pheromones, body language, behavior, tone of voice, humor, confidence, and being open and vulnerable.

” Certain features of people's bodies, like facial symmetry and youthfulness, can play a role in physical attraction, but physical beauty is not the only component. Chemicals like sex hormones, pheromones, and neurotransmitters can also cause you to become physically attracted to someone.”

” When you feel attracted to someone do they feel it too?
Yes! If you are around that person, looking at them, talking to them, interacting with them then yes there's a 80% chance that they know you are attracted to them. Our brains subconsciously read the other people's body behaviour, their emotional tone, their facial expressions basically non verbal cues.”

”Things You Should Know
Look for signs of attraction in her body language, like prolonged eye contact, playing with her hair, biting her lip, and frequent physical contact. Analyze subtle cues in conversations. This includes a sultry tone of voice, laughing at cheesy jokes, compliments, and flirty comments.”

I hope this helps 

[maestro]

So what should I have done to create more attraction? I had some attraction from the first girl for approaching and looking somewhat cool and I had some attraction from the second girl because her brother introduced me so it made me seem like a cooler guy.

[G-host]

Hm, im getting a little vague here first and tell you to just have some fun with her, flirt a little, touch her a little.. like on the arm when she laughs (so she accociates your touch with a pleasent feeling). For me its hard to tell what else to do becuse every moment asks for a different you.. to do or, how to be. Find out who she is, then play upon it. Connect with her, maybe by figuring out your shared values and interests. One thing i sometimes do is to find out things about her and if something resembles with my ex, i tell her that (and i also let her know that im still friends with her) so she knows that i like those traits without actually saing it. But, thats just me. I also like to know what she thinks about us being friends still. And, i do say that my ex would undestand the jelousy that could occur. Otherwise i also like to play with words and get creative about it. Like when i tell her to come, i hold in my mind a dubbel edged sword that tells her to get over here and also the meaning of having an orgasm. With a sneaky smile   An advice is to stear the conversation to something pleasent, unless she is bonding with you by telling whats important to her in which case, you should listen. And you dont always need to have a solution to it, thats not always what she is asking for, just try to understand where she is coming from.

Makes sense?

[G-host]

For me, the most important thing is to enjoy being who you are, with her.

[G-host]

Position yourself closer to her. ...
Maintain physical contact a little longer. ...
Lower the volume of your voice and slow it down. ...
Smile at her and hold your gaze. ...
Check out her lips. ...
Take your time for the kiss. ...
Pull away from a kiss sometimes. ...
Don't rush through foreplay.

As always, google is my friend 

[G-host]

Apr 1, 2024 12:37:26 GMT G-host said:

And, i do say that my ex would undestand the jelousy that could occur. 

I also say this to hint that i see her as a potential mate   And, that if we would be togheter and it doesent work out, then im the type of guy who she could even be friends with after, or at least have a "good" break-up 

[maestro]

Makes sense, she also immediately opened up about having children and that she has done Martial Arts for many years as a kid, so she opened up immediately probably because I came in with a smile on the approach and a cheery attitude.

[JackZero]

Apr 1, 2024 11:53:44 GMT maestro said:

So what should I have done to create more attraction? I had some attraction from the first girl for approaching and looking somewhat cool and I had some attraction from the second girl because her brother introduced me so it made me seem like a cooler guy.

Express attraction. Don't depend on being social, being cool, or just approaching to be enough. If she likes being around you and then you demonstrate that you are attracted to her will cause her to want to be attracted to you even if she wasn't initially attracted. Doing this causes her to get into a mindset of, "let's see where this goes," instead of letting it get to the point of fizzling out. You express attraction (not necessarily verbally), then it will cause her to mirror that attraction.  At that point it's your job to keep her in that moment in order to cement the attraction.

At the end of the day, all women want to feel desired. Being interesting and social are outstanding tools to have in your pocket to initiate things. They just don't get you across the finish line. If you make her feel desired while at the same time demonstrating that you are interesting and social will give you a winning record.

I'm going to say this again if you haven't heard me say it before. Most of pickup taught by gurus is garbage because it is designed to protect your ego and that's why most guys like it.  Rejection is a blow to most guys self esteem, so pickup does everything that it can do to avoid putting you into the position to be rejected or give you an excuse on why the rejection happened that doesn't put the blame on the man.  Real pickup doesn't fear the rejection because it will get to the point of expressing the feeling of, "I like you. Do you like me?" and that is a benchmark that you don't want to avoid. It is one of the most important parts of the game.