Post by JackZero on Mar 1, 2018 21:03:04 GMT
Here's post from the defunct pick-up-artist-forum.com by JSmooth
Online Direct to Date
Being direct and to the point with what you want online is a large key to success on the Internet primarly with dating sites. I don't use any fancy openers or lines when it comes to meeting and attracting women online I'm just up front about what I want.
Here recently I put up a Match.com profile just last Wednesday. I have already setup 5 dates been on 4 of them, bounced all them to my place after the initial meeting place, F-closed 3, Did everyone but F-Close the other one, the final date is tonight. I'm making her dinner at her place for our first date!
With it being said that you need to be direct there is some measure of restraint you need to have when being direct online. If you email a girl saying, "Hey you're cute and I'm a pickup artist want to come over for a great night of sex?" I'm guessing thats not going to work too well for you.
As a real life example this is what I said to a girl today on Match. I first tried to chat with her via the Match.com chat since she was online but the chat system didn't work. I sent her this message below, then immediately she texted me and I setup a date to cook her dinner at her place.
"The Match Chat I think was having some issues. You seem like a really easy person to talk to so let me level with you. I think you are polite, have a big heart, and are very attractive! I'd really like the opportunity to take you out for some coffee with conversation or dinner sometime. =) I just have this feeling that you're a great person and I'd like to get to know you better.
You are welcome to message me back here or if you want you can shoot me a text. xxx-xxx-xxxx Jon"
Most guys wouldn't send this message because they would say that's AFC you need to be more indirect then show interest. "Hello?!?" You are messaging a girl online via a dating website. Your actions show you are interested before she reads the first word. You might as well be honest about what you want.
The above example is very typical of what I end up sending after a few messages or based on my overall feel of the situation. I am just very up front with what I want and what I'm looking for. I tell girls I just got back into the dating scene after a break from women, that I'm looking for a relationship eventually, but right now I'm just dating. Then from there tell stories about my life yes with some DHV spikes in them, tease, and the go direct with telling them I want to meet them along with sending them my number.
This is pretty much my flow chart if you will for how I do things online.
1. Opening Message. Comment on the profile, be witty, and keep it short.
2. DHV Stories, Build Rapport, Ask Questions to Further Conversation --- *Be direct and to the point with who you are and what you want.* (3-4 Paragraph or Two Sized Messages)
3. Tell her you like her and you want to meet her eventually. Give her your number, and tell her to text you. *If she doesn't then fall back to talking on Instant Messenger, rebuild rapport, then go back forward. This usually isn't needed.*
4. A few fluff text messages or a few minutes of fluff on the phone just to establish some more rapport and then ask for the date. If you don't get the date go back to telling DHV stories of your life build rapport, and try again later.
Nothing fancy but it works very very well for me! Keep in mind that I do this very quickly. I don't play phone games and wait a ton of time to message back. I can hear you now, "Won't that look needy?" You sent her a message on an online dating site, get over it! Time to step it up and go after what you want. If you start playing games you can lead her to thinking you're having second thoughts or not interested. Strike while the iron is HOT!
Girls respond very well to this, and more often than not, they respond favorably. Keep in mind as you message women online to be more direct about what you want as far as a relationship goes, who you are, and that you want to meet her. There is no reason to be all secretive about it she knows why you sent her the message so don't disappoint.
~Jon
Being direct and to the point with what you want online is a large key to success on the Internet primarly with dating sites. I don't use any fancy openers or lines when it comes to meeting and attracting women online I'm just up front about what I want.
Here recently I put up a Match.com profile just last Wednesday. I have already setup 5 dates been on 4 of them, bounced all them to my place after the initial meeting place, F-closed 3, Did everyone but F-Close the other one, the final date is tonight. I'm making her dinner at her place for our first date!
With it being said that you need to be direct there is some measure of restraint you need to have when being direct online. If you email a girl saying, "Hey you're cute and I'm a pickup artist want to come over for a great night of sex?" I'm guessing thats not going to work too well for you.
As a real life example this is what I said to a girl today on Match. I first tried to chat with her via the Match.com chat since she was online but the chat system didn't work. I sent her this message below, then immediately she texted me and I setup a date to cook her dinner at her place.
"The Match Chat I think was having some issues. You seem like a really easy person to talk to so let me level with you. I think you are polite, have a big heart, and are very attractive! I'd really like the opportunity to take you out for some coffee with conversation or dinner sometime. =) I just have this feeling that you're a great person and I'd like to get to know you better.
You are welcome to message me back here or if you want you can shoot me a text. xxx-xxx-xxxx Jon"
Most guys wouldn't send this message because they would say that's AFC you need to be more indirect then show interest. "Hello?!?" You are messaging a girl online via a dating website. Your actions show you are interested before she reads the first word. You might as well be honest about what you want.
The above example is very typical of what I end up sending after a few messages or based on my overall feel of the situation. I am just very up front with what I want and what I'm looking for. I tell girls I just got back into the dating scene after a break from women, that I'm looking for a relationship eventually, but right now I'm just dating. Then from there tell stories about my life yes with some DHV spikes in them, tease, and the go direct with telling them I want to meet them along with sending them my number.
This is pretty much my flow chart if you will for how I do things online.
1. Opening Message. Comment on the profile, be witty, and keep it short.
2. DHV Stories, Build Rapport, Ask Questions to Further Conversation --- *Be direct and to the point with who you are and what you want.* (3-4 Paragraph or Two Sized Messages)
3. Tell her you like her and you want to meet her eventually. Give her your number, and tell her to text you. *If she doesn't then fall back to talking on Instant Messenger, rebuild rapport, then go back forward. This usually isn't needed.*
4. A few fluff text messages or a few minutes of fluff on the phone just to establish some more rapport and then ask for the date. If you don't get the date go back to telling DHV stories of your life build rapport, and try again later.
Nothing fancy but it works very very well for me! Keep in mind that I do this very quickly. I don't play phone games and wait a ton of time to message back. I can hear you now, "Won't that look needy?" You sent her a message on an online dating site, get over it! Time to step it up and go after what you want. If you start playing games you can lead her to thinking you're having second thoughts or not interested. Strike while the iron is HOT!
Girls respond very well to this, and more often than not, they respond favorably. Keep in mind as you message women online to be more direct about what you want as far as a relationship goes, who you are, and that you want to meet her. There is no reason to be all secretive about it she knows why you sent her the message so don't disappoint.
~Jon
