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Post by Heywood Jablowme on Oct 17, 2018 18:50:23 GMT
This isn't any RedPill bullshit.
In this era of #MeToo, and controversy about “toxic masculinity,” many younger guys I talk to are not only struggling to approach women/girls.
They are petrified to do/say or act in any sexual manner.
After giving advice on the subject of women for over 10 years, some are flat rejecting my suggestions as cringy or creepy.
I've always played the bold card as the way to success with bedding females I'm attracted to. And it's seldom failed me.
But these guys complain and whine and cry. But would rather shoot their future offspring into a kleenex to the imaginary internet porn skanks to rid themselves of that waxy build up.
Two recent instances I can think of are; One 19 year old girl complained to me that her boyfriend of two years wants to wait for marriage before he'll slide in the salami. Not only does she not want to wait two fucking years (I don't blame her!) She doesn't want to lock her young life down just to get some dick.
Case #2. A cute bubbly 24 Year old brunette confided she'd gone on three dates with this "Super buff" guy from her class, stayed the night with him, clearly stated at dinner, she couldn't hardly wait to get him home and "fuck him silly'!! He still withdrew.
I did offer to cover the depravity, but she laughed and said she's going to give him another chance.
On the flip side, the guys are telling me "women will be offended if you show sexual interest in them and they don't find you attractive." Or this nutless wonder "The only way I'm not completely isolated from society is to crush any hope of finding someone. And to treat women as non sexually as possible."
Is this an epidemic? Does It indicate a shift is underway in how young men envision “manhood”?
Holding onto masculine values that I'm distinctly proud of from my previous generations and passing down to mine, is dear to me.
Are we now not doing that? That is one grim future in my book.
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Post by Prince on Oct 17, 2018 19:39:51 GMT
This isn't any RedPill bullshit. Dude, you got divorce raped back in 2011 or so and yet you call RedPill bullshit? |
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Post by Prince on Oct 17, 2018 20:00:20 GMT
Lol, you keep deleting my post!....
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Post by JackZero on Oct 17, 2018 20:04:25 GMT
Lol, you keep deleting my post!.... I keep deleting your post (Not Heywood) because your only purpose for posting it is to start a fight. If you want to be here, we are glad to have you as long as you're being civil. If you don't like how things go here, go somewhere else. In the past I stopped people from attacking you for no reason. Now you are attacking others for no reason. |
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Post by Prince on Oct 17, 2018 20:08:52 GMT
Lol, you keep deleting my post!.... I keep deleting your post (Not Heywood) because your only purpose for posting it is to start a fight. If you want to be here, we are glad to have you as long as you're being civil. If you don't like how things go here, go somewhere else. In the past I stopped people from attacking you for no reason. Now you are attacking others for no reason. I didn't want to start a fight. I only wanted correct information to be posted. And now you're making it seem like I was cussing at the guy or something by deleting my post. |
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Post by JackZero on Oct 17, 2018 20:12:33 GMT
I keep deleting your post (Not Heywood) because your only purpose for posting it is to start a fight. If you want to be here, we are glad to have you as long as you're being civil. If you don't like how things go here, go somewhere else. In the past I stopped people from attacking you for no reason. Now you are attacking others for no reason. I didn't want to start a fight. I only wanted correct information to be posted. And now you're making it seem like I was cussing at the guy or something by deleting my post. Like I said, it wasn't civil the way you did it. If you want there to be a correction made, drop a DM to the OP. |
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Oct 17, 2018 21:59:28 GMT
What's really sad to me is, guys just flat out denying themselves the right to approach and talk to girls who they find attractive (regardless of the outcome..bad or good). The game will actually reward you with pussy for your boldness. For most average guys..more than they would've ever have dreamed of. That was really the case for me. The game has already rewarded me with far more pussy than i've ever expected to get from the game, when i first started. But those successes wouldn't have happened like that for me, if i was just going out being passive, and not approaching girls, when i knew that i really should have. And i knew this from jump! You truly miss 100% of the shots that you don't take.
This game rewards boldness and taking risk. But most guys elect the passive route. Fantasizing about the girl as she walks right pass them, or as he's watching her sitting there in a chair at the cafe alone..drinking her cup of latte. I have been there guys. I know all about that! I have either experienced or seen most sticking points that newbies to game will go through. And i can tell you that it hurts the soul every time you elect not to approach that girl when you know that you should have. You actually lose a small piece of your self-confidence every time you decide not to approach..whenever you feel that urge to approach, and you don't do it. You may not be aware that you are slowly losing your self-confidence with women, but it is happening to you..daily! You always know better. Noone else knows, because they are not inside of your head, but you do know. You can run away from the girl, but you can't hide from yourself. Your brain knows what you did. It knows that you pussied out..AGAIN!!! And your brain will not let you off the hook for it either. Funny enough..i would often have a bad day at the end of those kind of days or nights, in general..and i can always trace it back to not approaching that one hot girl, that i knew in my heart of hearts..i should have approached. However..you actually get your self-confidence back when you stop being passive, and just approach. Don't think, just go to her and say hi! Most of you guys with "sexual intent issues", i can assure you that you have that issue because you are not approaching girls when you know that you should be..or because you are being too passive while in set (too much of a nice guy), followed by you ejecting from sets way too early (I also contribute premature ejectulation from sets..to approach anxiety). Sounds about right guys?
If you've ever read any of my epic lay reports (from the old forum and on this one)..none of those experiences would have ever happened for me, if i elected to pass those girls up, not approach them, and just let them walk away. Now really..just stop to think about that for a second. Really..think about that. Let that just sink in for a moment. And it's not because i didn't feel any approach anxiety before i approached those girls..because i did (i usually do feel approach anxiety, and i still do feel it to this very day!)..but i still approach girls in spite of it. And that is truly Alpha..to approach the hot girl, in spite of you feeling the approach anxiety.
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Post by saddog on Oct 18, 2018 16:42:33 GMT
Well, I think this is anecdotal, I can give you examples of "boldness" from the other side. A girl dancing with a guy, they stopped, he tries to kiss her, she deny, minutes later, he grab her face with both hands(no space to escape) and kiss her. She got pissed, he said "oh, you are really mad, I was just being bold". Second, guy meet a woman in a party, get her name, find her on facebook/instagram, find a event she checked in, go there too, she god scared and he thought "I was taking initiative". But, like I said, we will see what we want. Simple anecdote
We did tons of shit wrong in the past, and cut some of it. Most of metoo movement was right, and discredit it all because some people are crazy, is crazy too(the Aziz case for example was totally fine). Let it go toxic behaviors isnt lose your masculinity, just respect people space and dont be a idiot, like everyone else.
This do not mean you cannot approach people on the street, some people like, some dont, just use a non invasive toxic approach and you be fine(and in my country, out of the jail too)
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Oct 18, 2018 23:06:52 GMT
I think you might be missing the point saddog. It's not just about only going full on boldness with girls. You also need to be socially calibrated as well. You can't just be doing any kind of socially retarded and uncalibrated shit to girls, and then be surprised why it didn't work, and why it creeped the girl out. You also want to use basic common sense and social awareness. Even a little bit of self-awareness in the manner of how some of you guys are approaching girls, can do wonders for alot of you. Referring back to your second example..put yourself in the girl's shoes. If you was that girl..would you not also be creeped out by that guy? He practically was stalking her. If you're not doing odd and socially uncalibrated shit to girls in public, then you won't need to be worried about getting yourself into any trouble, or being put into jail. I've been approaching hundreds of women in a pickup context for over 4 1/2 years, and i've never once been arrested, and put into a cop car to be shoveled off to jail. If you are finding yourself in that kind of trouble from just approaching women..you are seriously doing something wrong, and you really need to re-evaluate and work on yourself.
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Post by N2thevoid on Oct 18, 2018 23:19:00 GMT
This isn't any RedPill bullshit. Dude, you got divorce raped back in 2011 or so and yet you call RedPill bullshit? Taking personal jabs at forum members and mods won’t win you any favours You’re welcome to stay but if you choose to remain adversarial to anyone who doesn’t see the world through your lens, that won’t be tolerated. We’ve been patient and restrained so far. |
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Post by saddog on Oct 20, 2018 4:52:53 GMT
I think you might be missing the point saddog. It's not just about only going full on boldness with girls. You also need to be socially calibrated as well. You can't just be doing any kind of socially retarded and uncalibrated shit to girls, and then be surprised why it didn't work, and why it creeped the girl out. You also want to use basic common sense and social awareness. Even a little bit of self-awareness in the manner of how some of you guys are approaching girls, can do wonders for alot of you. Referring back to your second example..put yourself in the girl's shoes. If you was that girl..would you not also be creeped out by that guy? He practically was stalking her. If you're not doing odd and socially uncalibrated shit to girls in public, then you won't need to be worried about getting yourself into any trouble, or being put into jail. I've been approaching hundreds of women in a pickup context for over 4 1/2 years, and i've never once been arrested, and put into a cop car to be shoveled off to jail. If you are finding yourself in that kind of trouble from just approaching women..you are seriously doing something wrong, and you really need to re-evaluate and work on yourself. -G I agree, in fact, I totally agree with the manual of Heywood in this matter(http://mpuaforum.proboards.com/thread/284/tips-pick-women-non-creepy), and anyone with half brain will too, #metoo shit is a complete different animal, and there`s no need to disqualify women to put these shit guys in jail. I think the new generation is holding back on sex, because our generation put too much effort on it(and most of us fail). For than its a statement, its like career, most of than dont want go to uni, because they dont want to invest so much time to enter in the rats race. Maybe next iteration, kids reach a balance between the two extremes |
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