TEDx : The psychology of seduction - Raj Persaud

[svabos]

Great presentation on what is seduction

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E46oWB4V0s

[saddog]

i think he is right in some points, but, playing games isnt the kind of shit that I am not willing to.

[svabos]

How it's playing games? He described basic of seduction: it is transaction where you fulfill the need of a person you are seducing. What that "need" is on you to guess as you are seducing.

From my knowledge this is crucial because I always get stuck on the point that I want something from a girl (sex, emotional connection) which she is not willing to give me because she has that (or has little value to her) so I need to give her something first (fulfill her other need).
Basically, for most guys seduction comes to fulfilling girls need for sex but that need drops over the years because people tend to loose interest in just sex, they need something more and that "more" is on guy who seduces to recognize

[N2thevoid]

Seduction really is a vibe you create. It has not only physical, but emotional/psychological parts to it.

There's a tonne of ways you can BE seductive. Physically, most women respond to touch similarly. Tactile pressure through touch with parts of the body, if done properly can drive a woman wild and if done properly with enough receptivity to near climax if not climax itself. Again, the energy is important. David Daida speaks talks about masculine and feminine dichotomies at length (suggested read "The Way of the Superior Man"). His books really help build an appreciation for the nuances of these energies, the push and pull dynamic within yin/yang energies and how to use it to create a seductive vibe, among other purposes.

IF you have her, she'll submit to pretty much anything you do. And most women will, if you're playing your card right. They want to succumb unconsciously, BUT with the 'right' guy - typically a guy in his masculine (e.g. someone not afraid to lead, and is decisive, not tentative) to literally take her sexually. A woman is most sexually receptive when she's in her feminine - this is why you will often see girls who feel unsure/unsafe around a guy just dry up and become super resistant. For a girl to be in her feminine, and freely explore in this state, including the sexual, she needs to feel the object of her desire is in his masculine - the yin to the yang. Time and time again I get complaints from couples where the guy feels miserable his woman has become shut off from sex as the connection becomes disrupted. She can't any longer be in her feminine to support this frame and be receptive to any sexual pursuit from her partner. When I frame the dynamic in this way to some of my couples, the woman's face lights up without fail as though I read her mind.

This isn't to say all women are like this, all the time. Some women, generally those with insecure style of attachment (withdrawers typically) can shut off the physical from the emotional and 'safely' engage sexually with people. But for the most part, the majority of women do not fall into this category. Again, I am speaking in generalities here.

This makes a lot of sense evolutionary speaking as well, for obvious reasons and other not so obvious reasons which I don't want to get into here for space sake.

Sex often loses meaning in the relationship when the connection fades, and/or becomes threatened. Myself, I do not sleep with girls unless I feel some sort of a connection with the It also has a lot to do with my style of attachment. i like this because it gives me opportunity to get to know who they are without obscuring things by rushing to sex. If it happens the 1st night, so be it, but there has to be something there for me to allow it.

[svabos]

Jan 14, 2019 21:47:52 GMT N2thevoid said:

Seduction really is a vibe you create. It has not only physical, but emotional/psychological parts to it.

There's a tonne of ways you can BE seductive. Physically, most women respond to touch similarly. Tactile pressure through touch with parts of the body, if done properly can drive a woman wild and if done properly with enough receptivity to near climax if not climax itself. Again, the energy is important. David Daida speaks talks about masculine and feminine dichotomies at length (suggested read "The Way of the Superior Man"). His books really help build an appreciation for the nuances of these energies, the push and pull dynamic within yin/yang energies and how to use it to create a seductive vibe, among other purposes.

IF you have her, she'll submit to pretty much anything you do. And most women will, if you're playing your card right. They want to succumb unconsciously, BUT with the 'right' guy - typically a guy in his masculine (e.g. someone not afraid to lead, and is decisive, not tentative) to literally take her sexually. A woman is most sexually receptive when she's in her feminine - this is why you will often see girls who feel unsure/unsafe around a guy just dry up and become super resistant. For a girl to be in her feminine, and freely explore in this state, including the sexual, she needs to feel the object of her desire is in his masculine - the yin to the yang. Time and time again I get complaints from couples where the guy feels miserable his woman has become shut off from sex as the connection becomes disrupted. She can't any longer be in her feminine to support this frame and be receptive to any sexual pursuit from her partner. When I frame the dynamic in this way to some of my couples, the woman's face lights up without fail as though I read her mind.

This isn't to say all women are like this, all the time. Some women, generally those with insecure style of attachment (withdrawers typically) can shut off the physical from the emotional and 'safely' engage sexually with people. But for the most part, the majority of women do not fall into this category. Again, I am speaking in generalities here.

This makes a lot of sense evolutionary speaking as well, for obvious reasons and other not so obvious reasons which I don't want to get into here for space sake.

Sex often loses meaning in the relationship when the connection fades, and/or becomes threatened. Myself, I do not sleep with girls unless I feel some sort of a connection with the It also has a lot to do with my style of attachment. i like this because it gives me opportunity to get to know who they are without obscuring things by rushing to sex. If it happens the 1st night, so be it, but there has to be something there for me to allow it.

I've read The Way of the Superior Man. It was super abstract to me when I've read it but now after reading Mark Manson and other books on the subject of M-F relationships, I've read it again because maybe I'll see
Also I'm superbly surprised by bold because I've got impression that everyone here pulls and have sex on the same night, maybe on 1st date... and I'm just like you: I need to feel connection, I just don't find arousing sticking a di*k in a girl the moment I've met her, it's like something is missing