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Post by N2thevoid on Jul 11, 2020 21:20:16 GMT
Too much focus on this pu bullshit.
Fuck your "LMR".
This is common sense shit, if she's saying 'no' then just make out, get her hot and heavy and put the objective outta mind. You're coming in thirsty.
And if she's still lukewarm respect that, show you're a man in control of your impulses. Don't pout, just continue on with the night.
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Post by JackZero on Jul 11, 2020 21:28:38 GMT
Plausible deniability This is why women rarely will ask you out - rather they will say "hey stranger wanna go listen to some music later?" (Most) Women (in their feminine) speak in a much more subtle language, and if you aren't attuned to it you're likely missing out on a lot of potential opportunity. This also applies to you saying you're going to go get a condom. It made things into a bigger deal AND gave her the opportunity to say no. What do I mean by this? In those few moments of you fumbling the ball, things got a bit stodgy for her - you lost your edge Mr. Smooth (in the moment only). Plausible deniability is a woman's way of being able to frame a situation (to herself, and her friends) that things 'just happened'. Women LOVE that 'just happened'/happinstance/serendipitous experience. To achieve this it is your job to LEAD (this is a big part of leading the interaction/'setting the frame'). You are setting the stage/the experience for things to happen. Lights, camera, action. If she's coming over for dinner, have a condom in your pocket, or in the sleeve of your couch wherever. Store it in your foreskin even, who cares. Don't make it a thing, the situation should just flow, this way it creates that energy that things just happened. What's the difference between a creepy guy and a hot guy? Both are often decisive but she feels attraction towards the hot guy (I am oversimplifying). It is how they frame it to be. If you're stumbling around she may either find it cute (in the beginning), or say to herself 'Oh man this dude isn't very sure of himself/acting like its the first lay in a decade'. I agree, but then this was probably the worst LMR ive ever experienced. Thing is, she told me a couple of times she wanted to wait. It was going to my head to just grab the condom and put it on and just slide it in. But because she was already so hesitant on everything it didnt seem like a good idea to me as I didn't want to be accused of rape or something. I know its a fine line and maybe I should have tried more, but this time it seemed to me she was serious about it. How do you distinguish if a no is a real no? That's why you dont sneak on a condom. Let her see you put it on. If she says no between opening the wrapper and insertion then you should be okay. Not saying you can't be accused of anything, but that would be more because of her being batshit crazy as opposed to being seduced. |
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Post by chef89 on Jul 11, 2020 22:28:30 GMT
Too much focus on this pu bullshit. Fuck your "LMR". This is common sense shit, if she's saying 'no' then just make out, get her hot and heavy and put the objective outta mind. You're coming in thirsty. And if she's still lukewarm respect that, show you're a man in control of your impulses. Don't pout, just continue on with the night. That's exactly what I did. I mean I made her warm for it, she even was suggesting that we should remove more clothes. Apparently not hot enough then. Well I'm not a thirsty pua, lol. It's fine. I use the word LMR because Im on a phone and English is not my native language. Im only baffled by the fact that she would go full naked, have lots of foreplay, and then reject sex. |
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Jul 12, 2020 17:22:47 GMT
Too much focus on this pu bullshit. Fuck your "LMR". This is common sense shit, if she's saying 'no' then just make out, get her hot and heavy and put the objective outta mind. You're coming in thirsty. And if she's still lukewarm respect that, show you're a man in control of your impulses. Don't pout, just continue on with the night. That's exactly what I did. I mean I made her warm for it, she even was suggesting that we should remove more clothes. Apparently not hot enough then. Well I'm not a thirsty pua, lol. It's fine. I use the word LMR because Im on a phone and English is not my native language. Im only baffled by the fact that she would go full naked, have lots of foreplay, and then reject sex. A few years ago, i used to watch the infield video breakdowns of a PUA on youtube named Frank. At the end of some of those videos..he used to always say that, it's never over until your dick is inside of the girl's vagina. And i've always kept that in mind every since. How does this apply to you chef89??..is that you really have to view a woman's LMR that way. You really have to view it as always a fuck in progress lol. And you've already gotten half way there, with her giving you a blowjob. So don't worry, you'll fuck her eventually. It could take you days..weeks..months..or even years (God forbid). But you gotta have that abundance mindset when it comes to LMR..and you probably do already have that mindset. You have to look at it as just another shit test. And you already know how to pass a shit test. It's just that this particular shit test, lasts longer than a single night or a few nights lol. Guys make the mistake of cutting off these chicks way too early (and sometimes you do have to). But i don't think that it's necessary in your case, because she already gave you oral sex. And if after a couple of weeks, she's still not putting out..just talk to other girls. Keep new girls coming into your funnel, that would probably put out. While you put this girl on the back burner. You already know how this thing goes. And once she feels that you put her on the back burner, because she thinks that your time and focus is going to another girl/or other girls..maybe that's what will have her offering her pussy to you, on a hot platter (thanks to a little help from pre-selection). And there are subtle ways, that you can convey to her, that she isn't the only one lol.  -G |
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Post by N2thevoid on Jul 12, 2020 17:48:51 GMT
Op, what's your intent with this girl? Are you simply trying to bed her, or do you have the intention of dating her to see if she's long term material?
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Post by chef89 on Jul 12, 2020 20:20:37 GMT
Op, what's your intent with this girl? Are you simply trying to bed her, or do you have the intention of dating her to see if she's long term material? The last one, I have been seeing a couple of girls but I got tired of it as it was only sex and no real connection (I also didnt want that with them). So I tried to focus on quality girls that I was genuinely interested in. |
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Post by chef89 on Jul 12, 2020 20:28:31 GMT
That's exactly what I did. I mean I made her warm for it, she even was suggesting that we should remove more clothes. Apparently not hot enough then. Well I'm not a thirsty pua, lol. It's fine. I use the word LMR because Im on a phone and English is not my native language. Im only baffled by the fact that she would go full naked, have lots of foreplay, and then reject sex. A few years ago, i used to watch the infield video breakdowns of a PUA on youtube named Frank. At the end of some of those videos..he used to always say that, it's never over until your dick is inside of the girl's vagina. And i've always kept that in mind every since. How does this apply to you chef89??..is that you really have to view a woman's LMR that way. You really have to view it as always a fuck in progress lol. And you've already gotten half way there, with her giving you a blowjob. So don't worry, you'll fuck her eventually. It could take you days..weeks..months..or even years (God forbid). But you gotta have that abundance mindset when it comes to LMR..and you probably do already have that mindset. You have to look at it as just another shit test. And you already know how to pass a shit test. It's just that this particular shit test, lasts longer than a single night or a few nights lol. Guys make the mistake of cutting off these chicks way too early (and sometimes you do have to). But i don't think that it's necessary in your case, because she already gave you oral sex. And if after a couple of weeks, she's still not putting out..just talk to other girls. Keep new girls coming into your funnel, that would probably put out. While you put this girl on the back burner. You already know how this thing goes. And once she feels that you put her on the back burner, because she thinks that your time and focus is going to another girl/or other girls..maybe that's what will have her offering her pussy to you, on a hot platter (thanks to a little help from pre-selection). And there are subtle ways, that you can convey to her, that she isn't the only one lol. -G Yeah, I have the feeling we will be sleeping together some other time. She was texting me quite a lot today without me doing a thing. I will see, whatever happens is fine. There was even another girl I know that saw us walking in the park. She wants to date me as well now, haha. Fascinating how much attention you get when a girl sees you with another (hot) girl. |
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Post by N2thevoid on Jul 12, 2020 20:38:40 GMT
So put a few other 'quality' girls on the burner and see if this one has as much cache for you.
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