Post by kidkazushi on Dec 27, 2020 20:38:57 GMT
Kazushi
December 27, 2020
PLEASE HELP MY FELLOW PUAs.
This is my first post on any PUA forum, I figured it was time to start learning what the community could teach.
So, last night a girl from my Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) class and I hung out. She’s Hispanic, works at a restaurant similar to Hooters, has an act for drugs, and her body is a 11 on a 1 to 10 scale.
A little about me, Kazushi is a name I took from one of the legends of Pride FC (Pride Never Die). I’m a blue belt in BJJ and I’m fairly competent at it. I know the fundamentals really well and it’s kept my body in great shape. I don't lift weights anymore but my body still looks like I do. Im very scrappy and I can beat a good chunk of the people I train with given I have the right mindset. Unless they’re brown or black level and sometimes I have my days with them too (rarely though). I excel with attitude and perseverance and I have a large amount of confidence. I'm also an engineer and programmer by trade. I wake up at 5:00 AM to start my day with BJJ, some programming, reading, and then off to my day job. I've travelled the world and the US, I can dance (salsa mostly), and I play a few instruments. Also I'm fairly good looking but I've realized looks matter less than attitude. Live in your own reality my friends.
A few weeks ago this girl that’s new to my class starts dropping big IOIs. I play it all very cool and relaxed. She says she wants to add me on Snapchat yesterday and we Snapchat a little bit and then she says she wants to hangout when she gets off of work at 2:00 AM. I tell her she can come over if she wants. She’s giving me huge signs and says that she wants to get intoxicated with me. The whole night she’s constantly opening my stories on Snapchat and is quick to respond while I’m delayed in mine. Maybe I showed to much early interest but my mind was in the gutter.
Later I’m at a bar with my roommate and then he wants food. We Snapchat her the closed restaurant we get to and she says come to her restaurant . My roommate being the crafty devil convinces me to go because he wants to see if we can pick up one of her friends for him as well. Honestly shouldn't have given in to it but I was flying high and having a huge amount of success talking with the ladies at a bar we were at. I don’t like to do something like that because I don’t want to seem too interested. I feel its better to make them feel like an option because that's how I've felt with a lot of the ladies I've had success with.
We get there and she gives me a hug and sits us down. She comes by and sits the majority of the time and is making a lot of sexual discussion. She’s also getting close to me and occasionally touches me. I only respond back with short little seconds of physical touch because I want her to work for it.
Unsolicited, she brings up past lovers, problems with them, and the fact that she needs dick from some guy in another town. I say something about a neck and her mind jumps to blowjobs and she talks about it. She also mentions another guy at my BJJ school and says he’s her crush (I submit his ass all the time by the way, but that’s beside the point and I actually like him).
I brush off the sexual remarks with a light hearted “nice” or “respect” with the exception of a subtle joke on car sizes and dick sizes I made later. I have a small car because I’m not trying to compensate for anything. Regarding the guy from class she mentions I say “he’s definitely got long hair” with a smile and show no signs of jealousy. Mostly because I’m trained to NGAF.
It’s 2:00 AM finally and we leave for my place. I leave a large tip ($20 on a $27 tab, because I’m an engineer and I have money), and I tell her not to look. I had left a drawing on the back of receipt saying “semi-attractive waitress, circa 2020” with a stick figure with hair for her to look at instead. I didn’t think she’d see the tip but she had to look later for collecting her money. Something I didn’t realize. She gives me a huge hug and says thank you.
I tell her with a light laugh and a smile “I told you not to look”. I don't like to do things for girls so easily because then they feel like they already have you. Large tips are for girlfriends, not waitresses at that place.
We get back and have some drinks and partake in some other things also. I spill some wine on my shirt but change it since we we're at my place. She plays with the puppy we have and when my roommate goes to bed we message the knots from BJJ out of each other’s backs (hurts a lot at times).
I say “I like to play music when I’m like this”.
She says “show me”.
I ask “what do you like”.
She says “anything but country”.
Then I strum a chord and say “blame it all on my roots, I showed up in boots” (Friends In Low Places - Garth Brooks). We both laugh and she says “haha I said anything but country”. Then I play an acoustic version of Electric Feel by MGMT I came up with years ago. She says “wow, you can sing and play” with a smile.
It’s 4:00 AM at this point and I ask her to cuddle, we doze off for a second on the couch because we’re both tired and a little intoxicated. We wake back up and I ask if I can kiss her to which she says “yes” with a tired smile.
WE MAKE OUT AND THERES NO SEXUAL PROGRESSION. BIG RED FLAG TO ME?
To be honest she’s not the best kisser and I tried to escalate and it went nowhere. Could be that she’s only had three lovers (she mentioned that at the dinner table for some odd reason). The kiss felt a little forced in hindsight. Never a good thing. There would be none of that the rest of the night.
We decide to go lay in bed and we cuddle up. I shift over because I’m physically uncomfortable and she's also hogging the bed.
At 7:00 AM, and she says her stomach hurts and that she would like to go home. I say “okay, but now that we can actually get comfortable, can we cuddle for a second longer” and with a smile she replies “yes”. After that, I take her home and she sits in the car with me and we converse for a bit. The conversation is light and easy and then she says, “I guess I’ll probably see you on Monday” with a smile. She was referring to BJJ class. A little unsure of the sincerity, but I will see her there Monday regardless.
I feel that with this girl I should’ve gotten somewhere physically or at least gotten a response at the end of the night showing more interest.
She was quick to look at all my stories on Snapchat last night and would double text after I left her on reads.
Now, she’s already posting on her Snapchat “who wants to do brunch? Gals only” four hours after I dropped her off. She hasn’t looked at any of my stories on Snapchat since just before we went to meet her. Not that I'm insecure, I just try to study and pick up on these sort of indicators.
Seems like she’s already lost a little bit of interest. I’ll get over it, but it’s good to learn for next time. If I can possibly work my way back in that would be great but I know sometimes you only get one chance.
All criticisms and comments are welcome.
My plan was to not text her and then just go to BJJ class with a huge smile and without acknowledging her presence. If she texts me, I’ll leave her on reads. I’ll acknowledge her once she approaches me first at BJJ class. Let me know your thoughts on this idea.
宜しくお願いします,
Kazushi
December 27, 2020
PLEASE HELP MY FELLOW PUAs.
This is my first post on any PUA forum, I figured it was time to start learning what the community could teach.
So, last night a girl from my Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) class and I hung out. She’s Hispanic, works at a restaurant similar to Hooters, has an act for drugs, and her body is a 11 on a 1 to 10 scale.
A little about me, Kazushi is a name I took from one of the legends of Pride FC (Pride Never Die). I’m a blue belt in BJJ and I’m fairly competent at it. I know the fundamentals really well and it’s kept my body in great shape. I don't lift weights anymore but my body still looks like I do. Im very scrappy and I can beat a good chunk of the people I train with given I have the right mindset. Unless they’re brown or black level and sometimes I have my days with them too (rarely though). I excel with attitude and perseverance and I have a large amount of confidence. I'm also an engineer and programmer by trade. I wake up at 5:00 AM to start my day with BJJ, some programming, reading, and then off to my day job. I've travelled the world and the US, I can dance (salsa mostly), and I play a few instruments. Also I'm fairly good looking but I've realized looks matter less than attitude. Live in your own reality my friends.
A few weeks ago this girl that’s new to my class starts dropping big IOIs. I play it all very cool and relaxed. She says she wants to add me on Snapchat yesterday and we Snapchat a little bit and then she says she wants to hangout when she gets off of work at 2:00 AM. I tell her she can come over if she wants. She’s giving me huge signs and says that she wants to get intoxicated with me. The whole night she’s constantly opening my stories on Snapchat and is quick to respond while I’m delayed in mine. Maybe I showed to much early interest but my mind was in the gutter.
Later I’m at a bar with my roommate and then he wants food. We Snapchat her the closed restaurant we get to and she says come to her restaurant . My roommate being the crafty devil convinces me to go because he wants to see if we can pick up one of her friends for him as well. Honestly shouldn't have given in to it but I was flying high and having a huge amount of success talking with the ladies at a bar we were at. I don’t like to do something like that because I don’t want to seem too interested. I feel its better to make them feel like an option because that's how I've felt with a lot of the ladies I've had success with.
We get there and she gives me a hug and sits us down. She comes by and sits the majority of the time and is making a lot of sexual discussion. She’s also getting close to me and occasionally touches me. I only respond back with short little seconds of physical touch because I want her to work for it.
Unsolicited, she brings up past lovers, problems with them, and the fact that she needs dick from some guy in another town. I say something about a neck and her mind jumps to blowjobs and she talks about it. She also mentions another guy at my BJJ school and says he’s her crush (I submit his ass all the time by the way, but that’s beside the point and I actually like him).
I brush off the sexual remarks with a light hearted “nice” or “respect” with the exception of a subtle joke on car sizes and dick sizes I made later. I have a small car because I’m not trying to compensate for anything. Regarding the guy from class she mentions I say “he’s definitely got long hair” with a smile and show no signs of jealousy. Mostly because I’m trained to NGAF.
It’s 2:00 AM finally and we leave for my place. I leave a large tip ($20 on a $27 tab, because I’m an engineer and I have money), and I tell her not to look. I had left a drawing on the back of receipt saying “semi-attractive waitress, circa 2020” with a stick figure with hair for her to look at instead. I didn’t think she’d see the tip but she had to look later for collecting her money. Something I didn’t realize. She gives me a huge hug and says thank you.
I tell her with a light laugh and a smile “I told you not to look”. I don't like to do things for girls so easily because then they feel like they already have you. Large tips are for girlfriends, not waitresses at that place.
We get back and have some drinks and partake in some other things also. I spill some wine on my shirt but change it since we we're at my place. She plays with the puppy we have and when my roommate goes to bed we message the knots from BJJ out of each other’s backs (hurts a lot at times).
I say “I like to play music when I’m like this”.
She says “show me”.
I ask “what do you like”.
She says “anything but country”.
Then I strum a chord and say “blame it all on my roots, I showed up in boots” (Friends In Low Places - Garth Brooks). We both laugh and she says “haha I said anything but country”. Then I play an acoustic version of Electric Feel by MGMT I came up with years ago. She says “wow, you can sing and play” with a smile.
It’s 4:00 AM at this point and I ask her to cuddle, we doze off for a second on the couch because we’re both tired and a little intoxicated. We wake back up and I ask if I can kiss her to which she says “yes” with a tired smile.
WE MAKE OUT AND THERES NO SEXUAL PROGRESSION. BIG RED FLAG TO ME?
To be honest she’s not the best kisser and I tried to escalate and it went nowhere. Could be that she’s only had three lovers (she mentioned that at the dinner table for some odd reason). The kiss felt a little forced in hindsight. Never a good thing. There would be none of that the rest of the night.
We decide to go lay in bed and we cuddle up. I shift over because I’m physically uncomfortable and she's also hogging the bed.
At 7:00 AM, and she says her stomach hurts and that she would like to go home. I say “okay, but now that we can actually get comfortable, can we cuddle for a second longer” and with a smile she replies “yes”. After that, I take her home and she sits in the car with me and we converse for a bit. The conversation is light and easy and then she says, “I guess I’ll probably see you on Monday” with a smile. She was referring to BJJ class. A little unsure of the sincerity, but I will see her there Monday regardless.
I feel that with this girl I should’ve gotten somewhere physically or at least gotten a response at the end of the night showing more interest.
She was quick to look at all my stories on Snapchat last night and would double text after I left her on reads.
Now, she’s already posting on her Snapchat “who wants to do brunch? Gals only” four hours after I dropped her off. She hasn’t looked at any of my stories on Snapchat since just before we went to meet her. Not that I'm insecure, I just try to study and pick up on these sort of indicators.
Seems like she’s already lost a little bit of interest. I’ll get over it, but it’s good to learn for next time. If I can possibly work my way back in that would be great but I know sometimes you only get one chance.
- Where all the sexual remarks from her shit tests?
- What other mistakes did I make?
- Was she testing me the whole night?
- Would most other people have been able to seal the deal?
- Have I done anything putting me past the point of no return?
- What can I do to progress further with her and get some more momentum?
All criticisms and comments are welcome.
My plan was to not text her and then just go to BJJ class with a huge smile and without acknowledging her presence. If she texts me, I’ll leave her on reads. I’ll acknowledge her once she approaches me first at BJJ class. Let me know your thoughts on this idea.
宜しくお願いします,
Kazushi
It was clear, and very detailed..which allowed me to get the full picture of everything that took place between you and her. And because you was very thorough in your details and explanation of everything that happened with this girl..we will be able to help you alot more, than if the details were more vague. Hindsight is always 20/20..which is why i always tell guys to write field reports. Because you're not able to see, alot of what you're doing that's right or wrong, while you're in the moment with the girl..until after the fact. And because of that fact..you can see why, guys that don't bother writing field reports, are actually screwing themselves over. Even though they may not think that they are. So good on you, for doing all of those things right!
