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Post by zerobox on Sept 5, 2021 16:11:21 GMT
I had a couple of questions regarding women in relationships and also a "phenomena" I have experienced with some women who are in serious relationships. 1. This is an advanced level question, but has anyone developed a tactic to pull away (or get her to occasionally "cheat" ) from her newly minted boyfriend? I know a fair amount of female acquaintances who are in new relationships and I don't bother with them because once this happens, I figure the relationship is new and exciting and at its strongest so I don't bother. I was wondering if any advanced guys here have been able to get around that and if so how? Also, is there a technique to use to get women to be in a "micro relationship" in essence to accept having a traditional guy and then a dirty slime-ball on the side for all her dirty fantasies ? Something I have noticed purely from observing facebook is that many attractive women have boyfriends for a few years, then become single, and then two weeks later have a new one. I always figured they would be choosier, but it's pretty rare for a women to remain single for long if they are hot. Unfortunately, I have only had success with women who are single so my dating pool is limited, and finding women between relationships has a small window of opportunity. 2. The phenomena I was talking about is something where you will game women, they will seem very interested and then because I din't act quickly, the next time I see them, they have an engagement ring. So it's clear they are in a relationship. The only thing I can think of, and this is a guess, is that they pressured there boyfriend to "use it or lose it" . I had one instance where a girl I gamed who received a marriage proposal and shortly thereafter the bf borrowed money from his parents to buy a house for them to live in!. Talk about social conditioning.
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Sept 5, 2021 23:01:20 GMT
Something I have noticed purely from observing facebook is that many attractive women have boyfriends for a few years, then become single, and then two weeks later have a new one. I always figured they would be choosier, but it's pretty rare for a women to remain single for long if they are hot. This phenomenon of a women being able to move on quickly to another guy, after breaking up from a long term relationship..is because they "monkey branch". Very rarely does a woman leave a relationship, without already having the backup guy on deck (the guy that she's going to be with next). Both guys (the current boyfriend, and the soon to be boyfriend) are experiencing different behaviors from her during this time period. And some of you reading this..may recognize these behaviors from past or present girls, that you've dealt with. The soon to be boyfriend, might be getting some physical action from her (which may or may not include sex). But he feels like he still doesn't quite have her yet. And btw..he doesn't know that he's her soon to be boyfriend (But she does. She already knows). And there's a reason for that. It's because, she's keeping her options open. And then there's the current boyfriend. He may see some behaviors from his girlfriend like..random texting. She might even be a bit distant, emotionally and sexually. He'll still probably be fucking her..but it won't be the same. Something will seem like it's missing. And the sex with her, won't be as frequent either. But she still won't leave him..until she has just about completely lost all attraction for him..and once she knows that she has the "soon to be boyfriend" already secured. And once she has those 2 things occurring simultaneously..that's when she will leave her current boyfriend. To the current boyfriend, it will seem like..she left him suddenly. But he doesn't know, that she's been seeing the other guy (the soon to be boyfriend) for a while now. But he has seen a few red flags from her, for a while now too..that would've told him what was happening..if he hadn't ignored them. One big red flag, that he might've seen..before the relationship "suddenly" ended..was her maybe telling him.. "I think we should take a break". To a guy who doesn't know what that statement from his girlfriend means..it might sound to him like, she just needs a little bit of distance from him..to relax, and clear her mind..before coming back to him as his loving, caring, and happy girlfriend. When in reality, what it actually means is..she's already seeing another guy, and she needs some time away from him..to see if a new relationship, with this new guy (the soon to be boyfriend) will work out. If she returns back to her current boyfriend, from "the break"..as the sweet, caring, and loving girlfriend, that she used to be to him..then it just means that things with the new guy (the guy that she was seeing for a while) didn't work out. But if she "suddenly" breaks up with her current boyfriend..then it means that things with the new guy (the soon to be boyfriend) did work out. And that's the same guy, that her now ex-boyfriend..will see her with, a couple days later or a week later. And btw..this is not only exclusive to hot girls doing this. Average, and even below average looking girls, do it too! This is what "monkey branching" is. And women do this alot. More than you realize. As for tricks and techniques, on how to steal a girl from her boyfriend..just look up the old school "boyfriend destroyer" technique on the web. They have it somewhere on the old forum. That technique was made specifically..to take a girl away from her boyfriend, by making him look bad (or low value) in her eyes. Other than that..if a girl that you're gaming, brings up to you..that she has a boyfriend. Just be non-reactive to her having a boyfriend. And still game her, as if she was single. Because even a girl with a boyfriend, still won't say "No", to the attention that you're giving her..that she might not be getting from her boyfriend. And because of hypergamy..she is susceptible to cheating on her boyfriend, with another guy. It just depends on that guy's value. If she sees that guy, as him having greater value than her current boyfriend (he's the bigger, better deal)..then she will probably cheat on her boyfriend, with this guy..if she keeps communicating with him, and hanging out with him. It's only a matter of time at that point. But all in all..if she cheats on her boyfriend with you..she was eventually going to cheat on him anyways. If not you..then she would've found some other guy, to cheat on her boyfriend with. But better you, then some other guy right? Lol But i will give you a disclaimer. Some guys won't take it very lightly, if you fuck their girlfriends. And you may not want the drama, that may follow. So let me warn you about that too. I'll suggest, sticking with gaming the single girls. However..you may come across some girls, that told you that they were single..only to find out later, that they had a boyfriend. So there are those types of "single" girls, that are out there too. -G
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Post by zerobox on Sept 6, 2021 17:26:28 GMT
Thanks a lot that was a great response and was bitter sweet but was a puzzle piece I did not have. I was under a false assumption that the breakups were always clean and mutual . I had a cousin recently who broke up with his gf, but it was mutual. So it's just like divorce where 75% of divorces are started by women. I have had instances where a women was showing interest in me but she had a bf, but it was clear she was hunting for a new bf and wont leave until she has completed the branch. I had an instance at work once where a women would talk to me in front of her "BF" and I would game her, but her friends would interfere once I got reactions from her. My belief was that she was trying to make him jealous and to pressure into marriage (which they eventually did) so I avoided her so as not to be a pawn. But this brings up a interesting point with regards to Facebook and how it serves as a social control mechanism as wells as a public relations tool for its users. Many times you will see a women post pictures with her bf having a lovely time with her vacationing in Baja and she will make postings about how he is so important to her (which may be true in the moment, and they may even live together) but a few months later he is history or she is seeing another guy on the branch, so it is just bullocks. But overall when you look at the fb pages it present the illusion as a strong relationship It's a like a job, you want out so you interview and you go to the dentist (an interview) and get hired and leave a job or an employer wants to get rid of you so they drop subtle hints and then your canned. So a women will give an illusion out to the public that she is a "good girl" see another guy, then dump the borefriend , wait 2-3 weeks , then announce on fb she has a brand new bf, the love of her life, marriage plans will be inferred and the public facade continues. If she announced the next day after the break up she had another guy, it would imply she was fucking the new guy while she was still with the old bf which would make her less than a "morally upright good ole fashioned girl" So I take it then that you can you use bf destroyer tactics on a women who just started dating a guy and it makes no difference? That there is no set time period for how long she has to be with a guy? But I agree on the second part, I have experienced the drama part where I got a women's phone number and called and a psychotically enraged husband answered (when I interacted with her she had no ring on) and I just hung up and other times an angry boyfriend answered. So women wont even tell you that they are with someone. I agree though you are better off only with a single one, but in my experience they are few and hard to find if they are hot. I suppose a person could do tinder or whatever, but for a variety of reasons I wont get involved with that. I have even come close to approaching women in coffee shops and grocery stores where it appeared they were by themselves only to have a bf appear out of nowhere. The only thing that has saved me from altercation is that I am much older than the women and they probably son't see me as much of a threat Thanks again though, this clears up a lot
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Post by pilgrimmeister on Sept 7, 2021 17:46:06 GMT
Thanks a lot that was a great response and was bitter sweet but was a puzzle piece I did not have. I was under a false assumption that the breakups were always clean and mutual . I had a cousin recently who broke up with his gf, but it was mutual. So it's just like divorce where 75% of divorces are started by women. I have had instances where a women was showing interest in me but she had a bf, but it was clear she was hunting for a new bf and wont leave until she has completed the branch. I had an instance at work once where a women would talk to me in front of her "BF" and I would game her, but her friends would interfere once I got reactions from her. My belief was that she was trying to make him jealous and to pressure into marriage (which they eventually did) so I avoided her so as not to be a pawn. But this brings up a interesting point with regards to Facebook and how it serves as a social control mechanism as wells as a public relations tool for its users. Many times you will see a women post pictures with her bf having a lovely time with her vacationing in Baja and she will make postings about how he is so important to her (which may be true in the moment, and they may even live together) but a few months later he is history or she is seeing another guy on the branch, so it is just bullocks. But overall when you look at the fb pages it present the illusion as a strong relationship It's a like a job, you want out so you interview and you go to the dentist (an interview) and get hired and leave a job or an employer wants to get rid of you so they drop subtle hints and then your canned. So a women will give an illusion out to the public that she is a "good girl" see another guy, then dump the borefriend , wait 2-3 weeks , then announce on fb she has a brand new bf, the love of her life, marriage plans will be inferred and the public facade continues. If she announced the next day after the break up she had another guy, it would imply she was fucking the new guy while she was still with the old bf which would make her less than a "morally upright good ole fashioned girl" So I take it then that you can you use bf destroyer tactics on a women who just started dating a guy and it makes no difference? That there is no set time period for how long she has to be with a guy? But I agree on the second part, I have experienced the drama part where I got a women's phone number and called and a psychotically enraged husband answered (when I interacted with her she had no ring on) and I just hung up and other times an angry boyfriend answered. So women wont even tell you that they are with someone. I agree though you are better off only with a single one, but in my experience they are few and hard to find if they are hot. I suppose a person could do tinder or whatever, but for a variety of reasons I wont get involved with that. I have even come close to approaching women in coffee shops and grocery stores where it appeared they were by themselves only to have a bf appear out of nowhere. The only thing that has saved me from altercation is that I am much older than the women and they probably son't see me as much of a threat Thanks again though, this clears up a lot Women who are newly in relationships are in a honeymoon period and if they are willing to play away, then that is a serious red flag. You can usually tell if they're up for it despite having a boyfriend, they will make it obvious.
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Post by spicybisket on Nov 24, 2021 21:25:42 GMT
Something I have noticed purely from observing facebook is that many attractive women have boyfriends for a few years, then become single, and then two weeks later have a new one. I always figured they would be choosier, but it's pretty rare for a women to remain single for long if they are hot. This phenomenon of a women being able to move on quickly to another guy, after breaking up from a long term relationship..is because they "monkey branch". Very rarely does a woman leave a relationship, without already having the backup guy on deck (the guy that she's going to be with next). Both guys (the current boyfriend, and the soon to be boyfriend) are experiencing different behaviors from her during this time period. And some of you reading this..may recognize these behaviors from past or present girls, that you've dealt with. The soon to be boyfriend, might be getting some physical action from her (which may or may not include sex). But he feels like he still doesn't quite have her yet. And btw..he doesn't know that he's her soon to be boyfriend (But she does. She already knows). And there's a reason for that. It's because, she's keeping her options open. And then there's the current boyfriend. He may see some behaviors from his girlfriend like..random texting. She might even be a bit distant, emotionally and sexually. He'll still probably be fucking her..but it won't be the same. Something will seem like it's missing. And the sex with her, won't be as frequent either. But she still won't leave him..until she has just about completely lost all attraction for him..and once she knows that she has the "soon to be boyfriend" already secured. And once she has those 2 things occurring simultaneously..that's when she will leave her current boyfriend. To the current boyfriend, it will seem like..she left him suddenly. But he doesn't know, that she's been seeing the other guy (the soon to be boyfriend) for a while now. But he has seen a few red flags from her, for a while now too..that would've told him what was happening..if he hadn't ignored them. One big red flag, that he might've seen..before the relationship "suddenly" ended..was her maybe telling him.. "I think we should take a break". To a guy who doesn't know what that statement from his girlfriend means..it might sound to him like, she just needs a little bit of distance from him..to relax, and clear her mind..before coming back to him as his loving, caring, and happy girlfriend. When in reality, what it actually means is..she's already seeing another guy, and she needs some time away from him..to see if a new relationship, with this new guy (the soon to be boyfriend) will work out. If she returns back to her current boyfriend, from "the break"..as the sweet, caring, and loving girlfriend, that she used to be to him..then it just means that things with the new guy (the guy that she was seeing for a while) didn't work out. But if she "suddenly" breaks up with her current boyfriend..then it means that things with the new guy (the soon to be boyfriend) did work out. And that's the same guy, that her now ex-boyfriend..will see her with, a couple days later or a week later. And btw..this is not only exclusive to hot girls doing this. Average, and even below average looking girls, do it too! This is what "monkey branching" is. And women do this alot. More than you realize. As for tricks and techniques, on how to steal a girl from her boyfriend..just look up the old school "boyfriend destroyer" technique on the web. They have it somewhere on the old forum. That technique was made specifically..to take a girl away from her boyfriend, by making him look bad (or low value) in her eyes. Other than that..if a girl that you're gaming, brings up to you..that she has a boyfriend. Just be non-reactive to her having a boyfriend. And still game her, as if she was single. Because even a girl with a boyfriend, still won't say "No", to the attention that you're giving her..that she might not be getting from her boyfriend. And because of hypergamy..she is susceptible to cheating on her boyfriend, with another guy. It just depends on that guy's value. If she sees that guy, as him having greater value than her current boyfriend (he's the bigger, better deal)..then she will probably cheat on her boyfriend, with this guy..if she keeps communicating with him, and hanging out with him. It's only a matter of time at that point. But all in all..if she cheats on her boyfriend with you..she was eventually going to cheat on him anyways. If not you..then she would've found some other guy, to cheat on her boyfriend with. But better you, then some other guy right? Lol But i will give you a disclaimer. Some guys won't take it very lightly, if you fuck their girlfriends. And you may not want the drama, that may follow. So let me warn you about that too. I'll suggest, sticking with gaming the single girls. However..you may come across some girls, that told you that they were single..only to find out later, that they had a boyfriend. So there are those types of "single" girls, that are out there too. -G What would you do if you were the current Bf and you saw “she came back” in other words the potential nee Bf didn’t make the cut? I would probably move on.
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Post by GFRESH2DEF on Nov 25, 2021 0:21:22 GMT
What would you do if you were the current Bf and you saw “she came back” in other words the potential nee Bf didn’t make the cut? I would probably move on. You would have to move on from her. Or at least..remove the girlfriend title from her. And demote her down to a Fuck Buddy. Because had things worked out with the new guy..she would've left you high and dry. And she wouldn't have cared about, how you felt about it..in the least bit. -G
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