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Post by G-host on Oct 23, 2021 15:06:48 GMT
What exactly is the typical role for a man in a relationship, and why? for example, how is it that a mans role is to lead? im thinking, one think could be that "energy flows where attention goes", and women are more emotional than men so we kind of, focus, better. where is it all rooted? could it have something to do with evolution? what do you guys think?
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Post by JackZero on Oct 23, 2021 17:51:25 GMT
To simplify it...the man's role is to make sure things happen. A woman's role is to support that. Before this goes down the rabbit hole of being old fashioned thinking, it still happens to be reality. The majority of women will give signals to a man when they are attracted to him in order for him to approach her. He still has to be the one to make it happen. When dating, most women will allow the man to plan what to do and where to go. When living together, most couples will split the bills up when possible but it's much more rare to see a woman handle a bulk of the bill and be happy about it at the same time...but most men take on that responsibility without complaint and even happy to do it if he is with a woman that appreciated his ability to provide.
The man leads and the woman supports that leadership.
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Post by G-host on Oct 23, 2021 18:04:37 GMT
why?
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Post by JackZero on Oct 23, 2021 18:12:20 GMT
Can you elaborate on your question?
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Post by G-host on Oct 23, 2021 18:15:01 GMT
why are men wired for leadership and women, to follow?
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Post by G-host on Oct 23, 2021 18:28:18 GMT
and you made me curius, whats down the rabbit hole?
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Post by JackZero on Oct 23, 2021 19:00:18 GMT
why are men wired for leadership and women, to follow? IMO, it's a mixture of social conditioning and physiological differences. By nature, men are stronger. Who is more built to fight away predators and lift heavy things? Because of this men are built to be providers and protectors. Our thinking has evolved to focus more on risk vs. reward. We take on a leadership roles because we are wired for risk/reward. Because of this women tend to be more attracted to the man that can fight away the predator and can make sound decisions. Over the years the line of protector/provider has become blurry. Most women have the comfort of knowing they can call law enforcement if there is danger. They are in the position of providing for themselves, but they tend to still be attracted to the guy who is strong and can provide. You'll hardly ever see a woman dating a guy that makes less than him or that she can beat in a fight. What I mean about the rabbit hole is that I'm not saying is that men are always better leaders or better providers. I'm not saying that a woman can't take the lead in a relationship or a man can't follow in a relationship. I'm not saying that women can't think in risk/reward concepts. I'm saying that the natural order of things is that a man leads and if a woman respects that man, she will want to follow. Generally, that respect is based on his masculine qualities.
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Post by G-host on Oct 24, 2021 6:33:45 GMT
That makes sence. Thanks!
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Post by G-host on Oct 24, 2021 6:40:58 GMT
Do men have other qualities besides this? And women, what are their feminine powers? like nurturing?
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Post by JackZero on Oct 24, 2021 16:47:17 GMT
Do men have other qualities besides this? And women, what are their feminine powers? like nurturing? This is a rabbit hole type of question. I would rather say that men are masculine and women are feminine. This is not to say that one is better than the other. If you can label a quality as masculine, men tend to be more adept. If you can label a quality feminine, women are generally better at it. Just don't be sexist while labeling these qualities (although I know some people will take issue with me saying that men lead).
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Post by G-host on Oct 24, 2021 17:09:04 GMT
We could learn something from dancing. I googled it.. "Traditionally, the male dance partner is the leader and the female dance partner is the follower, though this is not always the case..".
The site also had something important to say that could be translated into how we should behave in relationship with women. "Partner dancing requires awareness and clear communication; this is essential both for safety and for the overall success of the dance. If following in the dance, it helps to maintain a centered readiness to the leader. This helps the follower be ready for cues both visually and physically. The leader in the dance will best support the follower by giving clear directions.
For the leader and follower to interact with each other, communication needs to occur between the dance couple. Dancers take cues through physical connection, with the follower using it to communicate feedback to the leader just as the leader uses it to suggest moves to the follower. The most accomplished dancers use connection as a line of communication which allows the leader to incorporate the follower's ideas, abilities, and creative suggestions into their own styling and selection of moves."
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Post by G-host on Feb 16, 2024 11:43:56 GMT
"Elves neighter lead nor follow but often we wander togheter in the same direction as we so enjoy each others company." - The silver elves
Im quoting this not becuse this is right and that is not but just to point out that, there is anohter way.
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Post by guylikeshypnosis on Mar 8, 2024 10:59:14 GMT
What exactly is the typical role for a man in a relationship, and why? for example, how is it that a mans role is to lead? im thinking, one think could be that "energy flows where attention goes", and women are more emotional than men so we kind of, focus, better. where is it all rooted? could it have something to do with evolution? what do you guys think? that's a really evolved question, so try making it more primal. The answer is just laying there in evolutionary theory with men having higher upper body muscle mass and the intense libido we're all familiar with. now that the crap intro is over, let me spread the answer a bit more. "energy flows where attention goes" is something that I've heard in books about Chi and Becoming Supernatural by Joe Dispenza. The second one has a dead end but the first one gives a hope for an answer. Yin and Yang, my friend. Yin and Yang. just consider how contrasting men and women are just by their physical and mental characters. Testosterone literally decreases emotional sensitivity while Estrogen does the exact opposite. I know I didn't actually answer you, but I did make you ask a better question. If you want the answer, try some archetypal analysis books like the ones by Robert Moore or just find a group that discusses masculinity. Hope this helped.
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