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[tinman]

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Opened 2 stunning blonde girls with my friend near the dancefloor. Up there with the worst 'bitch shields' i've ever seen haha. They were Lithuanian, but their reaction was just how you imagine some stereotypical 10/10 in LA might be, Utter contempt lol! Sort of like they were Royalty.

It's actually a reaction I get all the time, but at least in the instance the girls were hot enough to warrant it! It's annoying when a 5 reacts like this...

Opened with a quick observation about her. She Looked at me like a scientist looking at a new cell under a microscope. Quickly decided to flip tactics and paid her a compliment. Same reaction. Teased her about being so serious. Same reaction. My friend was getting the exact same stuff from the other girl which actually made me laugh inside and made this painful exchange much less painful! lol  (Nice to be getting killed in battle with your fellow soldiers than my yourself!)

I remembered a JulienRSD vid where some hot LA girl was doing this exact thing to him, and I decided to steal his lines that he used in the video, so I said ''Stop trying so hard! Be normal!'' It actually 'kind of' worked in that it got her to talk back (a tiny bit), but she still wasn't giving me anything. I used another of his lines and said something like ''Imagine it's Christmas morning! You can be happy!'' and she smiled and told her friend (who was still ignoring my friend) what i'd said. I asked her some questions about herself which she answered in the shortest possible way each time, whilst simultaneously scanning the room. We both gave up after about 2 minutes of this (which felt like about an hour!)


I guess Mark Manson would say they were 'no girls' and so I was never gonna get her no matter what I said.


I made maybe 6 other approaches, but not really worth writing about since I think they were all insta-rejections. Still experimenting with 'direct'/Mark Manson approaches type approaches which I guess will naturally always be an insta rejection if you aren't her type physically which unfortunately seems to be the case for me.


I think there were one or 2 more indirect approaches in the last bar I went too, on the dancefloor, but wasn't happening again for me.

[GenmLevel0]

experiment experiment experiment

[tinman]

Apr 22, 2018 18:28:42 GMT GenmLevel0 said:

experiment experiment experiment

yeah, definitely. That's why I flip between direct and indirect approaches. Just experimenting.
But I don't think that with the Lithuanian girls, anything would have 'worked'. They were just super hot and not into me at all.
I'm glad my good looking win wasn't out last night because he'd have probably had them both throwing themselves at him which would have stung LOL 

[GenmLevel0]

Apr 22, 2018 19:49:54 GMT tinman said:

Apr 22, 2018 18:28:42 GMT GenmLevel0 said:

experiment experiment experiment

yeah, definitely. That's why I flip between direct and indirect approaches. Just experimenting.
But I don't think that with the Lithuanian girls, anything would have 'worked'. They were just super hot and not into me at all.
I'm glad my good looking win wasn't out last night because he'd have probably had them both throwing themselves at him which would have stung LOL 

Is that necessarily a bad thing? if he can engage them and have them engaged as a group you're part of, then maybe he can have THOSE girls, but you gain from using them as a pivot. Just my thought

[R.C]

Apr 22, 2018 19:49:54 GMT tinman said:

But I don't think that with the Lithuanian girls, anything would have 'worked'. They were just super hot and not into me at all.

One of the hardest challenges to overcome for newcomers is probably getting over a girls looks. There's a difference between being able to appreciate beauty, and attributing value to it. 

And there's also the matter of the mindset behind it. Some people put ridiculous amounts of time in their external look. You can make an argument towards whether that is or isn't a relatively stupid way of investing that time, but that's largely irrelevant for the topic at hand. 
Thing is, if you approach girls like that wearing a baggy Tshirt, a messy haircut and dirty tennis shoes, then yeah, they'll automatically be closed off to you, because that signals incompatibility from the get go. That's ofcourse an exaggerated example but it's meant to illustrate a point. Which is also why you're right. Sometimes your core personality is incompatible with hers, and at that point pretty much nothing works. Your external outlook is usually indicative of your personality. There' a reason people dress the way they do, use the accessories they do, and so on. 

This is why giving adequate replies to scenarios like this one is hard. We only have half the context. Sometimes there's a lot you can work on, other times a 'no girl' is a no girl. The only thing in your control is the first, so make sure that's on point. 

[tinman]

Are there any things/tricks in terms of game and things I could have said that I could use going forward, since this seems to be the way that hot girls react when cold approached.

Like, I know you can't 'turn' a no girl, but i'd like to use it as a gauge for where i'm at and how to improve.

Any canned cold reads? Do certain teases work best? Should I neg these girls? Do I call them out on their behaviour? Do I pretend that I like it in a reverse psychology kind of way?

I basically run out of things to say (after going through my small aresnal) in these situations. Would be nice to have more ammo in the back pocket

Maybe my questions and statements etc were too boring, and if so, I need advice about how best to open and transition into something that makes them engaged

[R.C]

Apr 23, 2018 17:43:47 GMT tinman said:

Are there any things/tricks in terms of game and things I could have said that I could use going forward, since this seems to be the way that hot girls react when cold approached.

You really can't make that statement. You've approached like what? 10 of what you consider hot girls? 5? 3? rethink it once you've got at least 100 under your belt. You may or may not be right, but at this point it's nothing more than speculation as far as you're concerned.

Apr 23, 2018 17:43:47 GMT tinman said:

Like, I know you can't 'turn' a no girl, but i'd like to use it as a gauge for where i'm at and how to improve.

You can either spend extra five minutes with the girls who are obviously uninterested, which in my opinion is time wasted, or you can use those minutes to approach someone else. You can ofcourse do it every now and then if you for whatever reason want to, but don't make it a habit and especially don't expect and outcome.

Apr 23, 2018 17:43:47 GMT tinman said:

Any canned cold reads? Do certain teases work best? Should I neg these girls? Do I call them out on their behaviour? Do I pretend that I like it in a reverse psychology kind of way?

Teases work best in general. As far as certain teases go, no. Everyone is different and everyone reacts differently to different subjects. You can tease a girl for her hair and she'll react very well to that. The next can be visibly hurt because either you went a bit too hard or she just has serious insecurities about that topic.
This is again a matter of delivery over actual material, and something you'll learn with experience. Any of the things you stated here can work. Aside from 'negging'. Remove that from your knowledge pool.

Apr 23, 2018 17:43:47 GMT tinman said:

I basically run out of things to say (after going through my small aresnal) in these situations. Would be nice to have more ammo in the back pocket
Maybe my questions and statements etc were too boring, and if so, I need advice about how best to open and transition into something that makes them engaged

That's because you don't listen. Guys will generally ignore what girls respond because they're too busy up in their head thinking of what to say next. Try to actually listen and bounce off of that. You don't need the witties lines or funniest jokes. You need to master integrating your personality in virtually everything you say. That's what adds the color.