kiss close but still failed

[letsgetit]

I was at a party and I was talking to this girl. everyone at the party was kind of friends so this made it a little bit more competitive in my opinion. we were drinking alone in the kitchen and 

she was all over me. I was sitting on a stool and she was kinda straddling my legs. then some people came in and we all went out to the patio. she was talking to some other guys so I hit 

on a girl and let her do her thing. then I came over and the guys left. I did the digital photo routine on her and It worked great. after she kissed me I said she kissed to hard and needed to 

relax. to prove she was a good kisser she kissed me a couple more times. then I asked her if she wanted to go back to the kitchen. she said yes but on the way there she started talking to 

other dudes and we never made it. I spent the rest of the night trying to get her back but she was being very cold. my friend told me she thought I came on too strong. and I think I did. 



looking back I think I know what I did wrong. I didn't create any push pull. when she was straddling me I should have told her to back up and kept building comfort. I never made her qualify herself and didn't neg her. at least thats what I think I did wrong. 

any opinions would be appreciated thanks 

[GFRESH2DEF]

Good field report man. You did makeout with the girl, so that is a win! So props to you on that. Guys think that it's easy to just makeout with a girl. But it is not! It's easier said than done..especially if the girl is hot too. So it's a sign, that you do have some game my friend. And your escalation game, seems to be on point! But of course..you would've liked to go further than that, with her. So i get why you feel like it's still a failure. But i'm not so sure, that not using a particular technique (like push/pulling..qualifying..or negging her), is what you did wrong. From what i read in your field report..you had the frame at the beginning (when she was straddling you, and making out with you). You were DHV'ing yourself, and you had the higher value at that point. That's when she was chasing you! However..you seemed to have lost the frame, once she started talking to other guys. You've even admitted to that yourself, in your own field report. The proof is always in the pudding -------> "on the way there she started talking to
other dudes and we never made it. I spent the rest of the night trying to get her back but she was being very cold. my friend told me she thought I came on too strong. and I think I did. ". And that's when you started doing most of the chasing after her, from when she was doing most of the chasing after you, earlier..before she started talking to other dudes! And that's when the value dynamic, switched over from you, to her.




So what you needed to do then was..talk to, and makeout with other girls at that party. Once she sees that, you are doing what you did with her, to other girls..she would've got jealous, and jumped on your dick again, to straddle you in front of those other girls that you talked to and madeout with. To claim you for herself. And you can still even use her, to play off of another one of those girls, that you madeout with, to make that girl jealous also..so that she could try and claim you for herself too. And if you play that situation right, all the way to the end..and bring both of those girls together with you, so they can both have you..best case scenario, you could get a threesome out of it. Worst case scenario..one of the girls get's pissed off and leaves, but you still get to have the other girl. And she will feel like she won the prize..which is you!..because she had to fight for you. But of course, if you play it wrong..you can end up losing both girls. But having 2 girls fighting over you all night..is a really good problem to have. I'm pretty sure that most guys would like to have that problem. I'm telling you this scenario because..i still read old field reports, from the old forum. And a few weeks ago..i came across a guy's field report, who was in a similar situation as you. He was flirting with a girl in the kitchen at some house party (same as you)..he got her turned on..and he started making out with her. Just like in your situation..she started talking to other guys. So he started talking to other girls as well (He fought fire with fire! ). He hit it off with one of those other girls that he was talking to, and the girl from the kitchen got jealous, and started chasing after him again..to claim him for herself. He just played both girls off of each other, the whole entire night, until the end. What he wanted was a threesome..but he couldn't get both girls comfortable enough with each other, to share him. I'm guessing it's probably because, he pushed one of them too far with the jealousy tactic. When he should've showed them both an equal amount of attention. And get them both comfortable enough with each other..so that they would be more down to share him, between the both of them. But he did end up fucking kitchen girl, in the upstairs 2nd floor bathroom. I'm probably giving you a little bit more, than you asked for here. But i'm pretty sure, that you aren't going to complain about it either. You have alot to take away here. Plus now, you will see the bigger picture..in regards to what was possible in your situation, that you might've not even looked at, or thought about before.




To make a long story short..girls will always chase after the guy, that has pre-selection and social proof (she sees that other girls want him, so now she wants him too). Which is why..you could be competing with a good looking guy, to see which one of you two, will get her. The obvious favorite to win, would be the good looking guy right? But if you have created social proof and pre-selection around you, that the good looking guy has not. You will be the one that she will go after, instead of the good looking guy. 




Btw..i'm not familiar with that "digital photo routine". If it has given you some good results..post that technique in the "Routines" section, of this forum. I'm sure that it would help out some other guys too, if it worked out for you.




-G

[letsgetit]

Sept 21, 2020 4:33:17 GMT GFRESH2DEF said:

Good field report man. You did makeout with the girl, so that is a win! So props to you on that. Guys think that it's easy to just makeout with a girl. But it is not! It's easier said than done..especially if the girl is hot too. So it's a sign, that you do have some game my friend. And your escalation game, seems to be on point! But of course..you would've liked to go further than that, with her. So i get why you feel like it's still a failure. But i'm not so sure, that not using a particular technique (like push/pulling..qualifying..or negging her), is what you did wrong. From what i read in your field report..you had the frame at the beginning (when she was straddling you, and making out with you). You were DHV'ing yourself, and you had the higher value at that point. That's when she was chasing you! However..you seemed to have lost the frame, once she started talking to other guys. You've even admitted to that yourself, in your own field report. The proof is always in the pudding -------> "on the way there she started talking to
other dudes and we never made it. I spent the rest of the night trying to get her back but she was being very cold. my friend told me she thought I came on too strong. and I think I did. ". And that's when you started doing most of the chasing after her, from when she was doing most of the chasing after you, earlier..before she started talking to other dudes! And that's when the value dynamic, switched over from you, to her.




So what you needed to do then was..talk to, and makeout with other girls at that party. Once she sees that, you are doing what you did with her, to other girls..she would've got jealous, and jumped on your dick again, to straddle you in front of those other girls that you talked to and madeout with. To claim you for herself. And you can still even use her, to play off of another one of those girls, that you madeout with, to make that girl jealous also..so that she could try and claim you for herself too. And if you play that situation right, all the way to the end..and bring both of those girls together with you, so they can both have you..best case scenario, you could get a threesome out of it. Worst case scenario..one of the girls get's pissed off and leaves, but you still get to have the other girl. And she will feel like she won the prize..which is you!..because she had to fight for you. But of course, if you play it wrong..you can end up losing both girls. But having 2 girls fighting over you all night..is a really good problem to have. I'm pretty sure that most guys would like to have that problem. I'm telling you this scenario because..i still read old field reports, from the old forum. And a few weeks ago..i came across a guy's field report, who was in a similar situation as you. He was flirting with a girl in the kitchen at some house party (same as you)..he got her turned on..and he started making out with her. Just like in your situation..she started talking to other guys. So he started talking to other girls as well (He fought fire with fire! ). He hit it off with one of those other girls that he was talking to, and the girl from the kitchen got jealous, and started chasing after him again..to claim him for herself. He just played both girls off of each other, the whole entire night, until the end. What he wanted was a threesome..but he couldn't get both girls comfortable enough with each other, to share him. I'm guessing it's probably because, he pushed one of them too far with the jealousy tactic. When he should've showed them both an equal amount of attention. And get them both comfortable enough with each other..so that they would be more down to share him, between the both of them. But he did end up fucking kitchen girl, in the upstairs 2nd floor bathroom. I'm probably giving you a little bit more, than you asked for here. But i'm pretty sure, that you aren't going to complain about it either. You have alot to take away here. Plus now, you will see the bigger picture..in regards to what was possible in your situation, that you might've not even looked at, or thought about before.




To make a long story short..girls will always chase after the guy, that has pre-selection and social proof (she sees that other girls want him, so now she wants him too). Which is why..you could be competing with a good looking guy, to see which one of you two, will get her. The obvious favorite to win, would be the good looking guy right? But if you have created social proof and pre-selection around you, that the good looking guy has not. You will be the one that she will go after, instead of the good looking guy. 




Btw..i'm not familiar with that "digital photo routine". If it has given you some good results..post that technique in the "Routines" section, of this forum. I'm sure that it would help out some other guys too, if it worked out for you.




-G
thank you so much this is very helpful I really appreciate it