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Post by JackZero on May 12, 2021 1:21:06 GMT
How to get the girl to invite you to her place is simple. These are magic words. Please don't tell anyone. "There's no privacy at my place." OP, I almost hate telling you to say that after your paragraph on women wanting a REAL MAN. One of those guys that can motivate her. One of those guys that know what to do in life. How can you define what a real man is without being able to show that you have real man credibility to a woman? I'm going to go a bit off topic here for you, OP. You haven't figured out why you want women in your life. Until you figure that out, you are going to absolutely suck with women. Up until this point, everything you say is sort of fantasy. Your talking like you want to show a girl that you are relationship material but want to avoid telling her that you aren't self-sufficient. Those two things don't match. What is it that you are hoping to get out of having a woman or multiple women in your life. Are you looking for temporary flings so you can get the invite or are you wanting to keep women around so you can impress them with your philosophies on life? I see. That is right, because I don't live with my folks I live with 3 very bummy roomates right now. I could never allow a girl to come over because the place looks like the fucking projects, both inside and out.
Well I haven't had sex in a while so I'd take a temporary fling since it's better than nothing at this point, but ultimately I want a woman or five to keep around, keep impressing them, keep enjoying life with them. I dream of polygamy one day.
The reason why, Jack, I want women in my life is because I loved the way it made me feel, during those times when many girls adored me.
I'm glad you're not living with your parents. Just work on getting your life in order so you can have your own place. Sacrifice more to rent so you don't have to worry about roommates and be on your professional mission. If women see potential in you, they'll stay around.
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Post by paul663 on May 12, 2021 2:35:13 GMT
I see. That is right, because I don't live with my folks I live with 3 very bummy roomates right now. I could never allow a girl to come over because the place looks like the fucking projects, both inside and out.
Well I haven't had sex in a while so I'd take a temporary fling since it's better than nothing at this point, but ultimately I want a woman or five to keep around, keep impressing them, keep enjoying life with them. I dream of polygamy one day.
The reason why, Jack, I want women in my life is because I loved the way it made me feel, during those times when many girls adored me.
I'm glad you're not living with your parents. Just work on getting your life in order so you can have your own place. Sacrifice more to rent so you don't have to worry about roommates and be on your professional mission. If women see potential in you, they'll stay around. Ok i will. It's hard, the rent around here is very high to be living alone. Oh well, lol, I'll find some way to make more money. I'll climb out this dump.
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Post by pilgrimmeister on May 12, 2021 10:25:19 GMT
Your major issue at the moment is that your pursuit of a woman is coming from a place of need, and that is a big turn off. No woman will make your life better, but would compliment it.
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Post by oneoff on May 12, 2021 19:54:20 GMT
Alot of what their saying is this idea of value. If you're coing from a low value fucked up needy place then it'll be a turn off to women.
I'm going to play devil's advocate a bit here and just straight up tell you. You don't need to be on a life purpose or mission to get women. There are certain types that actually like men who sit into the fact that they don't give a fuck about progressing in life and just provide them with good emotions.
These women will actually take care of low life ass men, and it's not even loser women. It'll sometimes be professional women who move you into their cribs and buy you a bunch of stuff and enjoy trying to "fix" you while you're dicking them down.
The value they get is that "I'm really helping him."
You see it all the time.
This would be the confident low life type of thing, it doesn't appeal to all women but there is certainly a fanbase for it.
Like dudes in prison getting women to put money on their books and stuff.
That's the truth.
That being said it's better if you're on your purpose and not playing that game, just for your own life quality.
Getting women to invest involves getting them to react to you.
Who's reacting to who.
I was on a call with Julien earlier talking about this new product he's about to launch for his mentoring students for instance.
He hasn't done a socializing product in years. It's all been inner game and trauma release. Don't worry about trying to get it, it's only for his mentoring alumni, not available to the general public, but one of the things he talked about was cause and effect, who's reacting to who, and positioning yourself within social dynamics.
This idea you're asking about...
I could sit here and type all day about it.
I'll try to make it brief.
Investment from the girl can come in many forms. Essentially you want to get her investing early on and baby step larger and larger investments.
For her mind it'd be challenging her to qualify herself to you.
Physically it'd be encouraging her to participate in the physical escalation by having her do little physical things to you. You can sublty influence her to do this and then overtly ask her to do things. Not creepy shit but for instance taking her hand and placing it on your knee then leaving it there and letting her do it for a few seconds is a slight subtle physical investment and then you can babystep this into larger physical investments.
Emotionally is simply getting her to react to you emotionally. Laughs, gasps, attraction etc.
The general theme is you start off small and then you turn it up gradually to the point where you can tell a girl to call you god or master or something if you want to take it that far. You don't have to, it's entirely up to you.
To have her obsessing over you after you're gone you just need to have a strong enough initial interaction and then not give her too much attention in between the meet ups. Then meet her at a frequency of not too fast, but not too long. Like once a week is a good rule of thumb.
Getting into minute details on this would take time I'm unwilling to commit to a free forum.
All of this stuff you're asking about is middle game shit. Books and multi hour programs were created on this topic. if you did enough searches on here you could piece together your own middle game although you have to be careful because a lot of the info on here is repeated from other sources (not first hand) or it's theoretical.
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Post by paul663 on May 13, 2021 2:05:35 GMT
Oneoff, thanks a lot. Yeah I know there's not much time to spend on free forums. It's fine. I'll do a little searching. I was wondering what's your opinion on Todd Valentine's shit?
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Post by oneoff on May 13, 2021 18:11:55 GMT
Todd and Max left the company before I joined so I never met them, but as far as Todd's materials they're cutting edge. He's the most technical guy out of everyone where it came to efficiency and nuances to increase batting averages.
It's really to the point of being unnecessary. After you obtain a certain rhythm of what works for you, you have a massive abundance of women. Then the rest of that stuff is just for the sport of gaming in general.
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Post by paul663 on May 14, 2021 2:22:36 GMT
After you obtain a certain rhythm of what works for you, you have a massive abundance of women. Then the rest of that stuff is just for the sport of gaming in general. Understood!
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