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Post by chef89 on Aug 3, 2020 10:09:02 GMT
Thanks to all!! I will succeed tomorrow, I work better under pressure so i gave myself an ultimatum...If I fail tomorrow, its over whether she will never want to see me again or i will remove myself. Reason I have been acting like a little bitch is because I really like her so much and have been analyzing every move instead of doing what I have always done. Ive been with many different women both sexually and not, but i have never felt like this about any other girl, ever!!!, i think she may be the one and I have never said that about anyone ever ...because of this i became a weak little bitch and it has hindered me with her for so long....im not even going to say how long this game of cat and mouse has taken. I failed because I was afraid of failing. Tomorrow its all or nothing! Shes been giving me plenty of opportunities to be a man and I have failed, clearly shes crazy about me for as I am for her so now its time to make us both happy! Im soooo excited for tomorrow!!!!!!! Id like to thank everyone for making me realize my issues and helping me fix it! You're putting her on a pedastool. There will be other girls out there better than her that you can bang, so her saying no when you start undressing her isn't really a big deal, if that happens. If you go round there with a whatever happens, happens attitude, you will have it in the bag. If you keep putting her on a pedastool, you may as well get down on your knees and say "I beg you ma'am, oh superior one, please will you have sex with me", and then blub when say says no, let's just be friends. Many years ago I did the same as you and learnt the error of my ways when she had her tounge down another lads throat right in front of me. I think it would actually be better for OP if he fails here, as that makes him think about his ways with women. That's the perfect moment to change your beliefs about yourself and about dating, because youre so fed up with failing. I've had this myself a couple of times and I can genuinely say that I was better off with her rejecting me as it put pressure on me internally to do better and to rethink my beliefs. I felt miserable and rejected back then, but my success with women skyrocketed soon after.
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Post by mathers645 on Aug 3, 2020 13:57:58 GMT
@chwf89 I dont have a problem with getting women...its just this one that i have been weak with... im also dating a hairstylist right now for about a month and a bit whos about 11-12 years younger than me.., from whom I'm getting it on a regular basis but my end goal is this other girl that im pursuing for a long term thing...and thats whats biting me in the ass. I've always chased just sex and that was easy, but now im chasing more but im learning that even though i want more, i still have to go back to my natural instincts as if i wanted just a lay...
I've been out of town with the boys and avoided the hairstylist yesterday on purpose so that my tank is full and im motivated...
As soon as i kiss her on that couch im gonna get hard in a second and i will make sure sure finds out
Today will be easy because i gave myself an ultimatum that if i fail, im giving up on this chic.
I'm actually very excited, not nervous or any of that... i got it in the bag.
I just got to remember to grab a wine on the way over...
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Post by chef89 on Aug 3, 2020 14:36:37 GMT
@chwf89 I dont have a problem with getting women...its just this one that i have been weak with... im also dating a hairstylist right now for about a month and a bit whos about 11-12 years younger than me.., from whom I'm getting it on a regular basis but my end goal is this other girl that im pursuing for a long term thing...and thats whats biting me in the ass. I've always chased just sex and that was easy, but now im chasing more but im learning that even though i want more, i still have to go back to my natural instincts as if i wanted just a lay... I've been out of town with the boys and avoided the hairstylist yesterday on purpose so that my tank is full and im motivated... As soon as i kiss her on that couch im gonna get hard in a second and i will make sure sure finds out Today will be easy because i gave myself an ultimatum that if i fail, im giving up on this chic. I'm actually very excited, not nervous or any of that... i got it in the bag. I just got to remember to grab a wine on the way over... Yeah I get that you don't have these problems with other girls. The point is that with your current mindset, you will never find a girl that you REALLY like, because your current beliefs are that you have to place those girls on a pedestal and that they are 'special'. That's why I said that getting rejected is maybe your best outcome here. It teaches you the hard way that no girl is special in the beginning, and that treating them as such gets you rejected anyway, sooner or later. If you change this, handling the really cute girls is almost as easy as handling the ones you don't really care about.
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Post by JackZero on Aug 3, 2020 14:36:40 GMT
@chwf89 I dont have a problem with getting women...its just this one that i have been weak with... im also dating a hairstylist right now for about a month and a bit whos about 11-12 years younger than me.., from whom I'm getting it on a regular basis but my end goal is this other girl that im pursuing for a long term thing...and thats whats biting me in the ass. I've always chased just sex and that was easy, but now im chasing more but im learning that even though i want more, i still have to go back to my natural instincts as if i wanted just a lay... I've been out of town with the boys and avoided the hairstylist yesterday on purpose so that my tank is full and im motivated... As soon as i kiss her on that couch im gonna get hard in a second and i will make sure sure finds out Today will be easy because i gave myself an ultimatum that if i fail, im giving up on this chic. I'm actually very excited, not nervous or any of that... i got it in the bag. I just got to remember to grab a wine on the way over... I have to ask you this. You've only been on two dates with this girl, you've never had sex with her, and you've decided that you are going to pursue her for a long term thing. What is it about this girl that makes you want her for long term? This type of thinking is puzzling to me, but for you...it's important that you know that answer for yourself.
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Post by Heywood Jablowme on Aug 3, 2020 15:03:27 GMT
Jesus. She wants you. Quit making it so hard.
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Post by mathers645 on Aug 3, 2020 15:26:29 GMT
@chwf89 I dont have a problem with getting women...its just this one that i have been weak with... im also dating a hairstylist right now for about a month and a bit whos about 11-12 years younger than me.., from whom I'm getting it on a regular basis but my end goal is this other girl that im pursuing for a long term thing...and thats whats biting me in the ass. I've always chased just sex and that was easy, but now im chasing more but im learning that even though i want more, i still have to go back to my natural instincts as if i wanted just a lay... I've been out of town with the boys and avoided the hairstylist yesterday on purpose so that my tank is full and im motivated... As soon as i kiss her on that couch im gonna get hard in a second and i will make sure sure finds out Today will be easy because i gave myself an ultimatum that if i fail, im giving up on this chic. I'm actually very excited, not nervous or any of that... i got it in the bag. I just got to remember to grab a wine on the way over... I have to ask you this. You've only been on two dates with this girl, you've never had sex with her, and you've decided that you are going to pursue her for a long term thing. What is it about this girl that makes you want her for long term? This type of thinking is puzzling to me, but for you...it's important that you know that answer for yourself.
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Post by mathers645 on Aug 3, 2020 15:30:11 GMT
No, I've known her a couple years through work, we have hung out probably over 100 times, every time it was flirty and with tension but i just never cared until recently and i have started pursuing now... shes into me too for sure.
ANYWAY GUYS, IM GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO SEE HER... STILL GOTTA PICKUP SOME WINE!
WISH ME LUCK AND BALLS LOL
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Post by chef89 on Aug 3, 2020 15:31:19 GMT
No, I've known her a couple years through work, we have hung out probably over 100 times, every time it was flirty and with tension but i just never cared until recently and i have started pursuing now... shes into me too for sure. ANYWAY GUYS, IM GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO SEE HER... STILL GOTTA PICKUP SOME WINE! WISH ME LUCK AND BALLS LOL Make sure you give status updates while on the toilet.. lol
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Post by N2thevoid on Aug 3, 2020 15:51:19 GMT
" i just never cared until recently and i have started pursuing now"
Bullshit.
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Post by N2thevoid on Aug 3, 2020 15:52:38 GMT
Going into this way too 'hot' (not the good kinda hot).
While he might get laid it will only be because she's too horny rather than anything he did.
This will fail in terms of a relationship. But, the upside is he'll learn a lot, I m hoping.
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Post by JackZero on Aug 3, 2020 15:52:56 GMT
No, I've known her a couple years through work, we have hung out probably over 100 times, every time it was flirty and with tension but i just never cared until recently and i have started pursuing now... shes into me too for sure. ANYWAY GUYS, IM GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO SEE HER... STILL GOTTA PICKUP SOME WINE! WISH ME LUCK AND BALLS LOL That's why I asked the way that I did. You are pursuing a long term thing with a girl that you've only went out with twice and never had sex with. Dynamics change when the nature of the relationships change.
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Post by N2thevoid on Aug 3, 2020 17:02:24 GMT
This chick is probably going about her day as normal, maybe taking a shower at best and refreshing her makeup.
This guy likely started the last 24 hours with a 2 hour mud mask, pumiced his nutsack, spent 4 hours trying to decide which shirt to wear, an hour on shoes and obsessed over it for a few more hours for a girl he's lording over for no good reason.
The way he's acting you'd think he was preparing for the Queen of England to come over for high tea.
Pretty thirsty behaviour if you ask me.
Show up with your dick, that's about all you need at this point.
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Post by pilgrimmeister on Aug 3, 2020 19:46:12 GMT
Just to give perspective, treat every girl you meet the same, regardless of if you fancy them or wish to persue them or not. You have to live and breath that attractive lifestyle and not fake it till you make it.
My forte is approaching large groups of girls, simply because it's a numbers game, and making 6, 8 or even grabbing the attention of 12 girls which I have done before creates a competitive vibe.
I treat each and everyone of them the same when engaging, regardless if its the overweight chick with a face like a slapped arse or the Alpha female who happens to be the fittest one of the group. No one girl in that group feels left out, there is a good vibe and nobody feels uncomfortable.
The result is group approval, and eventually a few will fight for your attention. At the very end of the night or interaction, you pick out the target and isolate and go from there. Or if there is an after party, take the lot over and isolate the target at the party (or several of they are down). Yes, I said that right, leading a group to the party.
This is no different to how you treat chicks on rotation or dating them 1 one 1. You treat them all the same until the point one of them does things to prove to you that they are worth more of your time. They will only do this if they are needy before sex (red flag) or after several sessions of sex and fun times with each other, and she brings up the exclusive question. They should only be rewarded with your sole attention once they earned it, and just being a HB9 or 10 is not it.
I am down for a weekender next year with 24 women. Many of which will be spoken for, but 8 or 9 of them will be single. They will all be treated the same, and the target I pick out of the Single ladies (I will know who is and who isn't) will be isolated when I take her outside, wait for the others to dissaprar then sneak her into the bedroom and shut the door. Unless the hotub is nice and warm of course. Many of them are pretty hot.
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Post by mathers645 on Aug 4, 2020 13:42:01 GMT
FULL UPDATE. Arrived at her place with wine. I greeted her with a kiss on the cheek (she flinched...I pretended not to notice) I asked whats on the menu and she told me about the baked paid thai shes making and she took me into the kitchen to show me. I tried to grab a piece from it while still raw and she jokingly slapped my hand. We play fought and i grabbed her from the back and just held her and leaned by head closer to hers and i felt as if she was flinching away lightly again. Pretended i didnt notice and let go. 5 min later i tried again and i kissed her on the back of the neck and told her she so sexy, and I told her im not hungry yet, maybe we could watch some tv together. I walk to the couch and sat down, she sits down like 3 feet away from me (another wtf in my mind, is she playing games? testing) so I just chilled there until she put some stand up comedian on. I then told her to come closer, and she did, i put my arm around her and she snuggled in. Immediately i got hard....i put a pillow on it to conceal for now... i also had the same issue when i held her hand last time at the park, a damn public place.. weird, i never had that with any girl by just holding her hand or cuddling. After 15 min, i told her her that her hair smells amazing, and it did! and i kissed her hand, we stared at each other and went went for the make out. As we were kissing i pulled of her shirt and unpopped her bra... she was amazed it did it with one hand. I attended do what was underneath with my mouth and i took off my shirt...I took her hand to my crotch and said look what you did. She grabbed it and said "wow is that for me?" and I said, that only if shes lucky and plays her cards right....the pad thai must be good too. I started to take off her pants...and she resisted (WTF again i thought...so i pretended like nothing, and started to kiss her neck....holy shit, she started moaning and i started rubbing her cookie with my hand through the pants and finally the pants came off. I went down on her, she reciprocated... i decided to go in....she pulled away and said "wait wait i dont know" (another wtf in my mind) so i backed off and started watching the comedy stand up and she asked "why did we stop", I told her i want her so bad right now and i cant just do it half way, but maybe when you are more ready....she said "ok lets go to bed then" we went to the bed and she went down on me again.... and then i went down on her, about 10min later, i got on top and tried my shot again. It worked, and it was perfection, easily the best sex i have ever had and then we fell asleep. Woke up an hour later and she finished making her pad thai, we ate and went back on the couch. We started watching family guy and we ended up making out again, this time she initiated, 10min later we were back in poundtown but this time on the couch. Watched more tv after that (sounds boring but it wasent) and around midnight, i told her i have to go home, she asked if i could please stay the night, at least just today and started holding me real tight... i stayed the night. I woke up in an empty bed and heard the shower on... so i walked in naked and into the shower, me made out and tried to poundtown in the shower... that was a fail, so we did other things. Before i left, she asked me if i want to come over back to her place after our drinks on wednesday with the mutual friend, and i said sure. She said "dont forget to bring some extra clothes" to which i responded "whats the point, theyre just going to get dirty on your bedroom floor" We kissed and i drove back home. Cant wait to see her tomorrow
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Post by JackZero on Aug 4, 2020 17:35:21 GMT
FULL UPDATE. Arrived at her place with wine. I greeted her with a kiss on the cheek (she flinched...I pretended not to notice) I asked whats on the menu and she told me about the baked paid thai shes making and she took me into the kitchen to show me. I tried to grab a piece from it while still raw and she jokingly slapped my hand. We play fought and i grabbed her from the back and just held her and leaned by head closer to hers and i felt as if she was flinching away lightly again. Pretended i didnt notice and let go. 5 min later i tried again and i kissed her on the back of the neck and told her she so sexy, and I told her im not hungry yet, maybe we could watch some tv together. I walk to the couch and sat down, she sits down like 3 feet away from me (another wtf in my mind, is she playing games? testing) so I just chilled there until she put some stand up comedian on. I then told her to come closer, and she did, i put my arm around her and she snuggled in. Immediately i got hard....i put a pillow on it to conceal for now... i also had the same issue when i held her hand last time at the park, a damn public place.. weird, i never had that with any girl by just holding her hand or cuddling. After 15 min, i told her her that her hair smells amazing, and it did! and i kissed her hand, we stared at each other and went went for the make out. As we were kissing i pulled of her shirt and unpopped her bra... she was amazed it did it with one hand. I attended do what was underneath with my mouth and i took off my shirt...I took her hand to my crotch and said look what you did. She grabbed it and said "wow is that for me?" and I said, that only if shes lucky and plays her cards right....the pad thai must be good too. I started to take off her pants...and she resisted (WTF again i thought...so i pretended like nothing, and started to kiss her neck....holy shit, she started moaning and i started rubbing her cookie with my hand through the pants and finally the pants came off. I went down on her, she reciprocated... i decided to go in....she pulled away and said "wait wait i dont know" (another wtf in my mind) so i backed off and started watching the comedy stand up and she asked "why did we stop", I told her i want her so bad right now and i cant just do it half way, but maybe when you are more ready....she said "ok lets go to bed then" we went to the bed and she went down on me again.... and then i went down on her, about 10min later, i got on top and tried my shot again. It worked, and it was perfection, easily the best sex i have ever had and then we fell asleep. Woke up an hour later and she finished making her pad thai, we ate and went back on the couch. We started watching family guy and we ended up making out again, this time she initiated, 10min later we were back in poundtown but this time on the couch. Watched more tv after that (sounds boring but it wasent) and around midnight, i told her i have to go home, she asked if i could please stay the night, at least just today and started holding me real tight... i stayed the night. I woke up in an empty bed and heard the shower on... so i walked in naked and into the shower, me made out and tried to poundtown in the shower... that was a fail, so we did other things. Before i left, she asked me if i want to come over back to her place after our drinks on wednesday with the mutual friend, and i said sure. She said "dont forget to bring some extra clothes" to which i responded "whats the point, theyre just going to get dirty on your bedroom floor" We kissed and i drove back home. Cant wait to see her tomorrow A lot better than reading about you trekking her around on your motorcycle. Good job.
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